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Digger Out
02-06-2010, 09:06 AM
saw Frontline other night, Noonan was on talking about his wife and her Alzheimers disease which she has for several years now, how he cared for her and he broke down. This was a heartbreaking story, without any political agenda and he was brave to do so. In fairness to Noonan was an able politician who was derided in the media in contrast to Bertie asnd Celia. I have a feeling that history and truth sometimes will out. RTE did a series on him and Hep C a few months before GE of 2002, and while he did not handle that issue well, the HepC scandal did not occur on his watch as MinisterI .
C. Flower
02-06-2010, 09:11 AM
The HepC scandal was in two parts - the infection, and the issue of redress and compensation. The latter did take place on his watch and I don't remember too many tears coming from him for woment dying in agony also stressed out by the ruthless approach of Noonan's department.

I have no idea what the purpose of Noonan's interview was and the piece on Alzheimers was I thought very lazy with no proper assessment of the scale ofthe problem and of current budgets and services. RTE at its worst.
Digger Out
02-06-2010, 10:54 AM
The HepC scandal was in two parts - the infection, and the issue of redress and compensation. The latter did take place on his watch and I don't remember too many tears coming from him for woment dying in agony also stressed out by the ruthless approach of Noonan's department.

I have no idea what the purpose of Noonan's interview was and the piece on Alzheimers was I thought very lazy with no proper assessment of the scale ofthe problem and of current budgets and services. RTE at its worst.

Correct about redress, and he was stupid to follow legal advice, but that what lawyers advise, even in clerical abuse cases. I think the interview did good work in raising awareness. One has to separate private and public matters of concern to politicians. Its a human story pure and simple, and I hope that estimation of politicians (and I am not one or a member of any party) is not so low as not to allow that.
C. Flower
02-06-2010, 10:58 AM
Correct about redress, and he was stupid to follow legal advice, but that what lawyers advise, even in clerical abuse cases. I think the interview did good work in raising awareness. One has to separate private and public matters of concern to politicians. Its a human story pure and simple, and I hope that estimation of politicians (and I am not one or a member of any party) is not so low as not to allow that.

It was a human story that left a bad taste in my mouth. Michael Noonan didn't seem to be having any difficulty with care for his wife, which was what the Frontline was meant to be about.
Why was 10 minutes of the 20 minute item taken up with this ?
charley
03-06-2010, 03:48 PM
crocodile tears from a heartless man. just looking for pity to keep himself in the public eye. he was a merciless minister .
while his wifes plight is sad he is well able to pay for her care without having to looking for assistance from the state.
there is was no real point of noonan being on the ' frontline' other than to let pat kenny massage his ego
Digger Out
03-06-2010, 11:02 PM
A high profile person like Noonan heightens awareness of the problem, in the same way Lenihan's illness does. To call his tears crockadile is awful and inhuman
Tony1975
03-06-2010, 11:03 PM
A high profile person like Noonan heightens awareness of the problem, in the same way Lenihan's illness does. To call his tears crockadile is awful and inhuman

+1.
C. Flower
03-06-2010, 11:04 PM
A high profile person like Noonan heightens awareness of the problem, in the same way Lenihan's illness does. To call his tears crockadile is awful and inhuman

The programme wasn't about the medical aspects of Alzheimer's disease, it was about failures in the way the health system deals with it.
truth.ie
04-06-2010, 09:54 AM
Is this the same guy who poured concrete over Frank Stagg's coffin because he wanted to dictate how people should be buried?
Thankfully, I'm not as inhumane as him and still have my humanity in check. I wish his wife a peaceful and dignified life.
C. Flower
04-06-2010, 10:25 AM
+1.

I don't think Michael Noonan's tears were crocodile, but it was very hard to watch them, remembering how intransigeant he was towards women dealing with a very slow and painful death from hepatitis, resulting from failures of Government.

And in terms of the time spent by RTE in a rare bit of coverage of a problem that affects thousands of peoples' lives, I think it was misspent.
eanach1
13-06-2011, 07:56 PM
Is this the same guy who poured concrete over Frank Stagg's coffin because he wanted to dictate how people should be buried?
Thankfully, I'm not as inhumane as him and still have my humanity in check. I wish his wife a peaceful and dignified life.

Hope people won't mind my bringing this thread back up again but I'm new here and it's how I found the site ..

Just wondering if anyone has any more info on how Noonan was involved in Frank Stagg's burial? As far as I can make out it was Paddy Cooney who ordered that?

Am I missing something?
Dr. FIVE
13-06-2011, 08:18 PM
I don't much about it but I'm sure others here do.

Welcome to the site.
eanach1
13-06-2011, 09:50 PM
I don't much about it but I'm sure others here do.

Welcome to the site.

Cheers FIVE! I'm just finding my way around, but really like it. It's going to be a big help to me as I find my politics.. :)

Yep what a horrifying story. I can't believe I didn't hear about it until I was looking up the HepC story on Noonan. Don't trust the guy..
PaddyJoe
13-06-2011, 10:05 PM
Hope people won't mind my bringing this thread back up again but I'm new here and it's how I found the site ..

Just wondering if anyone has any more info on how Noonan was involved in Frank Stagg's burial? As far as I can make out it was Paddy Cooney who ordered that?

Am I missing something?
Welcome eanach1 :)
Noonan wasn't in the Cabinet at the time of Stagg's burial so I doubt if he had any influence on the decision. Cooney was Minister for justice in the Coalition.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_of_the_20th_D%C3%A1il
eanach1
13-06-2011, 10:12 PM
Welcome eanach1 :)
Noonan wasn't in the Cabinet at the time of Stagg's burial so I doubt if he had any influence on the decision. Cooney was Minister for justice in the Coalition.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_of_the_20th_D%C3%A1il

That's what I thought but see post by truth.ie. I'm sure they had a reason for posting that.. Maybe something was said since..
TotalMayhem
13-06-2011, 10:20 PM
Patrick (Paddy) Cooney (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Cooney) acquired the nickname "Concrete Cooney" for his role in ordering the coffin of Frank Stagg, an IRA volunteer, to be covered in concrete.
eanach1
13-06-2011, 10:29 PM
Yup. But what was Noonan's part in it? That's what I'm trying to find out..
C. Flower
13-06-2011, 10:40 PM
Yup. But what was Noonan's part in it? That's what I'm trying to find out..

Why do you think Noonan was involved ?

It is an extraordinary story, how Frank Stagg was buried and then reburied where he had wanted to be.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Stagg
eanach1
13-06-2011, 10:56 PM
Why do you think Noonan was involved ?

It is an extraordinary story, how Frank Stagg was buried and then reburied where he had wanted to be.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Stagg

Because of what Truth.ie posted earlier in the thread. I don't think truth.ie was mixing up Cooney and Noonan at this juncture.

Even more beserk is that Eamonn Stagg actually went against his brother's wishes to be buried in the republican plot. He had him buried in the Stagg family plot according to a post here http://payaso-del-mierda.blogspot.com/2011/03/parting-of-ways.html