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reedak
29-01-2018, 06:59 PM
1. Despite fabrications, lies and deceptions in its propaganda, North Korea does tell the truth at times. North Korea has said umpteen times that its nuclear programs are non-negotiable.

(a) For instance, North Korean Foreign Minister Ri Yong-ho told Russia's TASS news agency on 11 October 2017: "Our principal position is that we will never agree to any talks in which our nuclear weapons will be the subject of negotiations." ( http://iran-daily.com/News/202243.html )

(b) In a statement released by North Korea’s Korean Central News Agency on 24 December 2017, the rogue regime's foreign ministry said: “If the U.S. wishes to live safely, it must abandon its hostile policy towards the DPRK and learn to co-exist with the country that has nuclear weapons and should wake up from its pipe dream of our country giving up nuclear weapons which we have developed and completed through all kinds of hardships.” ( http://www.ibtimes.com/north-korea-says-giving-nuclear-weapons-pipe-dream-2632838 )

2. In my political satire at http://www.politicalworld.org/showthread.php?17462-Political-Satire-The-Old-Man-of-the-Mountain-(9)#.Wm9tvLpuLIU
the priest thought to himself after listening to the woman's sad story: "A liar does utter a word of truth sometimes. Dreamers and fools choose not to believe in a liar when he tells the truth but believe in him when he utters an untruth."

Similarly, although North Korea has said many times that its nuclear programs are non-negotiable, a sizeable proportion of the population in South Korea still turn a blind eye to the rogue state's disarming frankness. There is no shortage of South Korean politicians who claim to be in favour of denuclearising the North, but so far only paying lip service to the idea. It is understandable why they are trying their best not to infuriate the belligerent rogue state because South Korea will be the main battlefield if the North launches an attack. Thousands of North Korean artillery pieces, which stand ready around 30 miles away from Seoul, could inflict immeasurable damage and suffering on the city of 10 million people.

Despite this military advantage, North Korea continues to pour its efforts and resources into developing nuclear capabilities so as to achieve its goal of subduing the South with coercion, threats and nuclear blackmail. Several decades later, North Korea will have a formidable nuclear arsenal. Then it won't be surprising that the majority of South Koreans will choose to wave the white flag rather than perish in "a sea of fire" when North Korean tanks roll southward across the border. Hence when North Korea offered to send a delegation to the Winter Olympics in January, the South was quick to accept the rare overture. However, when South Korea raised the issue of denuclearisation, the North threatened to withdraw the olive branch.

According to https://m.cnn.com/en/article/h_57358196c58af86704335b59cf17224b
when the two Koreas met face-to-face for the first time in two years to hammer out details on how the secluded communist nation can take part in the Games in Pyeongchang, North Korea refused to put its nuclear weapons on the table. Ahead of the talks, an article in North Korea's state-run Korean Central News Agency (KCNA) accused South Korea of using the Olympic Games talks to pave the way to negotiations on North Korea's weapons programs. "This fact that South Korea is trying so hard to achieve our participation of the winter games clearly reveals their wicked intent of leading us into giving up nuclear weapons," KCNA said. "South Korea should carefully consider how their ill-mannered behaviors can bring shameful results."

3. According to http://www.intellasia.net/ex-spy-for-kim-jong-un-says-n-korea-will-use-olympics-as-a-weapon-648582

(Begin excerpts)
...Kim Hyon-hui is a mass murderer, a former spy for North Korea who blew up a passenger jet in 1987 on orders from Kim Jong Un’s father...

And with the Olympics returning to South Korea in just over two weeks in PyeongChang, she’s warning the world not to trust Kim Jong Un. She sees dark motives behind his decision to send athletes to the Winter Olympics.

According to Kim Hyon-hui, the regime hopes to try to separate South Korea from its ally, the United States, and eventually to reunify the Korean Peninsula under Communist rule.

“North Korea is using the Olympics as a weapon,” Kim Hyon-hui said. “It’s trying to escape the sanctions by holding hands with South Korea, trying to break free from international isolation.”

She described the joint Korean Olympic team as “a publicity stunt for Kim Jong Un....

However, Kim Hyon-hui believes the country’s eventual goal is to get rid of American troops from the Korean Peninsula and predicted “North Korea will start its provocations again” in the months following the Olympics.

She added: “North Korea won’t give up its nuclear weapons. They’re its lifeline.” (End excerpts)

4. I agree with Kim Hyon-hui that North Korea is "trying to escape the sanctions by holding hands with South Korea, trying to break free from international isolation”.

Regarding the $500m, mostly from Hyundai, that had preceded his warm welcome in Pyongyang, Kim Dae-jung, Ex-President of South Korea (25 February 1998 – 25 February 2003), responded typically: “A rich brother should not visit a poor brother empty-handed.” ( http://www.economist.com/node/14302282 )

Hard-pressed by US-led sanctions, the poor brother has become poorer than before. Once again the poor brother is waiting with outstretched hands for his rich brother's visit.

5. Summary

To obtain lasting peace on the Korean Peninsula, denuclearisation of North Korea is just the first step. The second step is to ask Fatboy Kim to step down from his throne and disband the communist party for reunification and free elections. North Korea has said umpteen times that its nuclear programme is non-negotiable. Even when it offered to participate in the Winter Olympics, it had made no secret that it would never give up its nuclear weapons. Hence it is a pipe dream to expect the so-called thaw in Korean relations to bring about denuclearisation of North Korea.

It is evident from North Korea's Winter Olympic diplomacy that sanctions have begun to bite. Under enormous pressure, North Korea has resorted to clutch at the (South Korean) straw like a drowning man. The so-called rapprochement between the two Koreas will give the rogue regime a brief but much-needed respite to develop its nuclear programme and eventually subdue the South with nuclear blackmail. In the face of mounting sanctions, North Korea urgently requires economic aid and the reopening of the Kaesong joint-venture with the South under another “Sunshine Policy”.

Meanwhile, the US and its allies must keep up the momentum of the sanctions and maximise pressure on North Korea. If North Korea succeeds to use the so-called thaw in inter-Korean relations to break the sanctions, not only the US, South Korea and other US allies but the whole world will regret missing the long-awaited chance to finally denuclearise North Korea, being outwitted by the rogue regime again at the critical moment.

http://www.eastasiaforum.org/2012/03/12/south-korea-a-return-to-the-sunshine-policy-could-prove-dangerous/

http://theweek.com/articles/687815/growing-nuclear-threat-from-north-korea

https://sg.news.yahoo.com/n-koreas-ceremonial-head-state-visit-south-seoul-152619244.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Dae-jung

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/31/world/asia/north-korea-kim-jong-un-olympics.html

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy-defence/article/2126731/north-koreas-overtures-welcomed-china-us-sceptical

https://www.yahoo.com/news/olive-branch-booby-trap-n-koreas-tone-divides-072803979.html

eamo
31-01-2018, 01:18 PM
That is an interesting OP. When you think about it North Korea would be foolish not to develop their own nuclear deterrent when they see what happened to Libya, Syria and Iraq.

Kim Hyon-hui (mentioned in your piece) admits bombing South Korean flight KAL858 in 1987 killing all 115 on board. She was pardoned by the South Korean government and now acts as a propagandist for US interests.

Here is some more about her: https://www.voanews.com/a/former-north-korean-spy-returning-north-korea-to-terror-blacklist-good-thing/4136229.html

reedak
03-02-2018, 05:46 AM
That is an interesting OP. When you think about it North Korea would be foolish not to develop their own nuclear deterrent when they see what happened to Libya, Syria and Iraq.

Kim Hyon-hui (mentioned in your piece) admits bombing South Korean flight KAL858 in 1987 killing all 115 on board. She was pardoned by the South Korean government and now acts as a propagandist for US interests.

Here is some more about her: https://www.voanews.com/a/former-north-korean-spy-returning-north-korea-to-terror-blacklist-good-thing/4136229.html

When a notorious regime commits unpardonable crimes repeatedly against its own people in front of the whole world, it is futile to whitewash its actions by disqualifying a single eye witness. If you can prove that all humans on earth are as evil as the North Korean devil incarnate, then the fat boy would be clear of his crimes.

How can North Korea's few nuclear weapons (about 8) be an effective nuclear deterrent against the US which has about 6780 nuclear weapons that can destroy the world several times? You are talking with your head in the cloud to call North Korea's nuclear programme a nuclear deterrent.

Just take this historic example. Despite having nuclear missiles so close to the US mainland during the Cuban Missile Crisis in October 1962 (being installed in Cuba just 90 miles south of Florida), Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev (1894-1971) just obediently removed the missiles to resolve the crisis. Don't forget that the now-defunct Soviet Union was already the second nuclear superpower at that time. Now Russia has about 7,000 nuclear weapons -- greater than America's nuclear stockpile -- yet unlike North Korea, it does not resort to nuclear blackmail to turn other countries into "seas of fire".

P.S. North Korea's real nuclear deterrent against Uncle Sam is not its "infant" nuclear programme but the nuclear umbrella provided by Russia and China. The ruling dotards of both countries are more concerned than the North Korean devil incarnate about his rogue regime's survival.

http://www.businessinsider.sg/number-nuclear-weapons-us-russia-world-2017-1/?r=US&IR=T

http://www.history.com/topics/cold-war/cuban-missile-crisis

Apjp
03-02-2018, 10:57 PM
When a notorious regime commits unpardonable crimes repeatedly against its own people in front of the whole world, it is futile to whitewash its actions by disqualifying a single eye witness. If you can prove that all humans on earth are as evil as the North Korean devil incarnate, then the fat boy would be clear of his crimes.

How can North Korea's few nuclear weapons (about 8) be an effective nuclear deterrent against the US which has about 6780 nuclear weapons that can destroy the world several times? You are talking with your head in the cloud to call North Korea's nuclear programme a nuclear deterrent.

Just take this historic example. Despite having nuclear missiles so close to the US mainland during the Cuban Missile Crisis in October 1962 (being installed in Cuba just 90 miles south of Florida), Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev (1894-1971) just obediently removed the missiles to resolve the crisis. Don't forget that the now-defunct Soviet Union was already the second nuclear superpower at that time. Now Russia has about 7,000 nuclear weapons -- greater than America's nuclear stockpile -- yet unlike North Korea, it does not resort to nuclear blackmail to turn other countries into "seas of fire".

P.S. North Korea's real nuclear deterrent against Uncle Sam is not its "infant" nuclear programme but the nuclear umbrella provided by Russia and China. The ruling dotards of both countries are more concerned than the North Korean devil incarnate about his rogue regime's survival.

http://www.businessinsider.sg/number-nuclear-weapons-us-russia-world-2017-1/?r=US&IR=T

http://www.history.com/topics/cold-war/cuban-missile-crisis

Ah so you do have opinions?

Well, I would say Americans not wanting millions of their own people to die in a pointless world war three is enough of an incentive.

eamo
03-02-2018, 11:16 PM
Hi reedak. The main reason I posted was to say your op was interesting and to add some information. I wasn't as the Americans say "dissin" it.


Having said that, I do think the North Koreans nukes are a deterrent to US aggression. And while on the subject of Nukes let us not forget that the US is the only country to use atomic weapons against an enemy and they did so twice, without warning, against Japanese civilian targets resulting in at least 150,000 deaths and untold misery. I suspect the higher levels of the US state viewed Japanese as sub-human. Nothing else can explain their actions. It was unnecessary savagery. They could have blown the top off Mt. Fuji or Boiled the sea off Tokyo to show the power of their new weapon. But they chose to bomb two civilian cities just so they could study the effect of their new weapon.

The US would be better advised to show that it can make friends with countries who will not be its puppets. As well as making the world a safer place it would be in its own best interests. The world already knows how savage and ruthless the US can be, even to their own people. Let them show an ability to be more friendly, reasonable, and accommodating to countries who (unlike Ireland) plough an independent furrow. That would give them a standing in the world which would be the envy of, and an example to the world.




When a notorious regime commits unpardonable crimes repeatedly against its own people in front of the whole world, it is futile to whitewash its actions by disqualifying a single eye witness. If you can prove that all humans on earth are as evil as the North Korean devil incarnate, then the fat boy would be clear of his crimes.

I am sorry but I don't understand that, it might be my fault, and I am not been disingenuous, I would be guessing if I tried to answer it.


How can North Korea's few nuclear weapons (about 8) be an effective nuclear deterrent against the US which has about 6780 nuclear weapons that can destroy the world several times? You are talking with your head in the cloud to call North Korea's nuclear programme a nuclear deterrent.

Just take this historic example. Despite having nuclear missiles so close to the US mainland during the Cuban Missile Crisis in October 1962 (being installed in Cuba just 90 miles south of Florida), Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev (1894-1971) just obediently removed the missiles to resolve the crisis. Don't forget that the now-defunct Soviet Union was already the second nuclear superpower at that time. Now Russia has about 7,000 nuclear weapons -- greater than America's nuclear stockpile -- yet unlike North Korea, it does not resort to nuclear blackmail to turn other countries into "seas of fire".

P.S. North Korea's real nuclear deterrent against Uncle Sam is not its "infant" nuclear programme but the nuclear umbrella provided by Russia and China. The ruling dotards of both countries are more concerned than the North Korean devil incarnate about his rogue regime's survival.

http://www.businessinsider.sg/number-nuclear-weapons-us-russia-world-2017-1/?r=US&IR=T

http://www.history.com/topics/cold-war/cuban-missile-crisis

North Korea's nuclear weapons are a deterrent because like all bullies the US would like to hit without running the risk of getting hit. They do not want to be the object of US "shock and awe" treatment without been able to administer the same treatment, even on a much lesser scale, and the US doesn't like that possibility at all.

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The USSR at the invitation of Cuba and in reaction to US hostility to Cuba was going to Cubas aid by supplying nuclear weapons.

As your link to History.com states, the US agreed to withdraw its nuclear weapons from Turkey and agreed not to invade Cuba before the USSR turned their ships carrying the nukes around. This is a far cry from them "obediently removed the missiles to resolve the crisis" as you maintain. The US weapons in Turkey were not even separated by 90miles of water but were right on the borders of the Warsaw Pact.

The US and NATO need an enemy to keep feeding their military industrial industry in the same way as the US needs victims of their savage legal system to feed the prison industry. After the successful counter-revolution, and in contravention of agreements, they pushed eastwards until they found themselves another enemy in Russia.
It is not the people of America, Russia, Cuba, Ireland or any other country who are enemy's of each other, but the capitalist system which requires us to be enemies for the survival of the ruling class and their profit driven system.

Now, as they used to say in Cavan, put that in your pipe and smoke it:D.

reedak
04-02-2018, 04:41 AM
...Well, I would say Americans not wanting millions of their own people to die in a pointless world war three is enough of an incentive.

Are you in favour of the US building a long wall round itself and caring nothing about whatever happening outside its borders?

Are you saying that the US was wrong to help its allies in Europe and Asia during World War 2? Are you saying that the US should not have helped the South Koreans to fend off the northern invaders during the Korean War?

P.S. Don't forget there were huge losses of American lives in all those global interventions.

reedak
04-02-2018, 05:57 AM
[QUOTE=eamo;468722]I am sorry but I don't understand that, it might be my fault, and I am not been disingenuous, I would be guessing if I tried to answer it. [QUOTE]

1. Hi, dear comrade!

Either you are really ignorant or you are pretending to be ignorant of the unpardonable crimes committed by the Kim dynasty against its own people. The Kim regime's heinous crimes against its own people are known worldwide except you. Hence it is actually unnecessary to get a single individual to testify against the Kim dynasty's brutalities. Similarly, trying to discredit the testimony of a single individual will not whitewash the horrendous crimes of the Kim dynasty. Using an analogy, erasing a single stain would not hide the millions of stains on a dirty wall.

2. According to http://time.com/8651/north-koreas-kim-spending-big-on-cars-cognac-pianos/

(Begin excerpts)
A comprehensive report released this week concludes that North Korea’s government has committed “crimes against humanity” and should be referred to an international court for prosecution. In hundreds of pages, they catalog evidence of what rights groups have been reporting for years — “extermination,” torture, enslavement and rape. (End excerpts)

http://www.ohchr.org/EN/HRBodies/HRC/CoIDPRK/Pages/ReportoftheCommissionofInquiryDPRK.aspx

P.S. If you wish to replace the Supreme Leader in North Korea, I shall support you sky-high with my hands and legs. No matter how bad you are, you won't be worse than the devil incarnate. :)

reedak
04-02-2018, 06:24 AM
[QUOTE=eamo;468722]Having said that, I do think the North Koreans nukes are a deterrent to US aggression.[QUOTE]

Hi, my dear comrade!

Just tell me honestly. If North Korea is situated on the American continent or in the middle of the Pacific Ocean, do you still think the (miserable number of) North Korean nukes are a deterrent to your so-called US aggression.

Talking about your so-called "US aggression", which party or group of people committed aggression or started the Korean War?

http://www.history.com/topics/korean-war

http://time.com/3915803/korean-war-1950-history/

reedak
04-02-2018, 07:21 AM
It is not the people of America, Russia, Cuba, Ireland or any other country who are enemy's of each other, but the capitalist system which requires us to be enemies for the survival of the ruling class and their profit driven system.

1. Hi, my dear comrade!

In expressing your concern for "the survival of the ruling class", you sound like a die-hard communist from North Korea or a preserved specimen from a communist museum.

There are jokes in some Western political forums that the Supreme Leader is the only fat person in North Korea. The following link shows how the Dear Leader of your ruling class fattens himself while the common people are starving.

2. According to http://time.com/8651/north-koreas-kim-spending-big-on-cars-cognac-pianos/

(Begin excerpts)
Thanks to Dennis Rodman, we know that Kim Jong Un likes fine liquor, especially cognac. We also know Kim and his colleagues built a ski resort and an equestrian center. The report says the ruling elite purchased flashy cars, three-dozen pianos, and high-end recording equipment. Citing an earlier estimate, they guess that the total state spending on luxury goods rose from an average of $300 million a year under Kim Jong Il, to $645.8 million in 2012.

The U.N. team blasted Kim and his colleagues for spending “a significant amount of the state’s resources on the purchase of imported luxury goods.” The regime channels revenue from illegal activities to “parallel funds” that are “kept at the personal disposal of the Supreme Leader and used to cover personal expenses of the Supreme Leader, his family and other elites surrounding him,” they said. Revenue from illegal activities, including drug sales, was estimated in 2008 at $50 million per year. (End excerpts)

P.S. It looks like your "ruling class" is consisting of ruthless tyrants coming alive from the dusty pages of history books about ancient Korean kingdoms.

Please continue your pipe dream about utopian socialism in your smoky den. :)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_society

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utopian_socialism

reedak
06-02-2018, 09:54 PM
Ah so you do have opinions?...

1. My friend, I have expressed my opinions in all my threads. Either you have not read all my threads and posts carefully or you have a poor comprehension of English. As an example, please refer to the following excerpts at http://www.politicalworld.org/showthread.php?17456-Some-N-Korean-businesses-defy-China-shutdown-order#.WnoKzbpuLIU

(Begin excerpts)
(b) The second factor is China's half-hearted attempt at applying UN sanctions on North Korea. China could exert enormous economic pressure to bring North Korea down to its knees if it chooses. In contrast to its iron-fist policy towards Taiwanese separatism, Hong Kong's pro-democracy activism and South Korea's Lotte Group over the THAAD deployment, China remains extremely reluctant to apply strict sanctions on North Korea. Such tolerance of the North Korean nuclear threat, which could bring China back to the tragic era of the late Qing Dynasty, is beyond comprehension.

China is reportedly targeting at least 2,000 missiles at Taiwan, a non-nuclear-armed region whose inhabitants are of Chinese descent. In order to protect its people from nuclear obliteration, how many missiles is China targeting at nuclear-armed North Korea? Perhaps none at all. (End excerpts)

2. Let's return to the subject in this thread. If my opinion in this thread finds an echo with some North Koreans who are bold enough to tell their so-called Supreme Leader to renounce his throne, he may respond in one of the following ways:

(a) He may stamp his foot hard on the ground, bump his head against the wall and jump right out of the window in a fit of rage like Rumpelstiltskin. Then it will be good luck to those who dare to speak up for truth and justice in North Korea.

(b) Unfortunately, in all likelihood this would be his reaction. "What? How dare you to order me to abdicate! Instead of executing you with anti-aircraft guns, you shall perish under a fiery mushroom cloud in my next nuclear test!" he screeches angrily.

http://www.dltk-teach.com/fairy-tales/rumpelstiltskin/story.htm

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/may/13/north-korean-defence-minister-executed-by-anti-aircaft-gun-report

eamo
07-02-2018, 05:42 PM
1. Hi, dear comrade!

Either you are really ignorant or you are pretending to be ignorant of the unpardonable crimes committed by the Kim dynasty against its own people. The Kim regime's heinous crimes against its own people are known worldwide except you. Hence it is actually unnecessary to get a single individual to testify against the Kim dynasty's brutalities. Similarly, trying to discredit the testimony of a single individual will not whitewash the horrendous crimes of the Kim dynasty. Using an analogy, erasing a single stain would not hide the millions of stains on a dirty wall.

Hi reedak, this is what I said I did not understand and so could not answer:


When a notorious regime commits unpardonable crimes repeatedly against its own people in front of the whole world, it is futile to whitewash its actions by disqualifying a single eye witness. If you can prove that all humans on earth are as evil as the North Korean devil incarnate, then the fat boy would be clear of his crimes.

I have read it again several times and still don't get it. The first part is ok, some of the stories comming out of North Korea will be true, some false, some half true, and all will be used by Western propagandists to demonise N. Korea. You accept all the stories, I am more careful about what I believe. That is about the only answer I can give to that. Then there is the next bit. How whitewashing its actions and proving all humans on Earth evil has anything to do with what I said is still a mystery to me, Is there something incorrect in what I posted?





P.S. If you wish to replace the Supreme Leader in North Korea, I shall support you sky-high with my hands and legs. No matter how bad you are, you won't be worse than the devil incarnate. :)

I ain't even Supreme Leader in our house:)




Hi, my dear comrade!

Just tell me honestly. If North Korea is situated on the American continent or in the middle of the Pacific Ocean, do you still think the (miserable number of) North Korean nukes are a deterrent to your so-called US aggression.

If North Korea was not beside China and close to Russia they would have had a dose of American regime change long before they could have developed Nuclear Weapons. But they are where they are and now their weapons are one hell of a deterrent to the USA.


Talking about your so-called "US aggression", which party or group of people committed aggression or started the Korean War?


North Korea invaded South Korea and so started a war of aggression. They are still trotting far behind the US in the aggression stakes.



1. Hi, my dear comrade!

In expressing your concern for "the survival of the ruling class", you sound like a die-hard communist from North Korea or a preserved specimen from a communist museum.

Yea...sometimes I do feel like a preserved specimen from a communist museum, but if humankind does not evolve an economic system above and beyond Capitalism we are not going to survive as a civilised species.



2. According to http://time.com/8651/north-koreas-kim-spending-big-on-cars-cognac-pianos/

(Begin excerpts)
Thanks to Dennis Rodman, we know that Kim Jong Un likes fine liquor, especially cognac. We also know Kim and his colleagues built a ski resort and an equestrian center. The report says the ruling elite purchased flashy cars, three-dozen pianos, and high-end recording equipment. Citing an earlier estimate, they guess that the total state spending on luxury goods rose from an average of $300 million a year under Kim Jong Il, to $645.8 million in 2012.

The U.N. team blasted Kim and his colleagues for spending “a significant amount of the state’s resources on the purchase of imported luxury goods.” The regime channels revenue from illegal activities to “parallel funds” that are “kept at the personal disposal of the Supreme Leader and used to cover personal expenses of the Supreme Leader, his family and other elites surrounding him,” they said. Revenue from illegal activities, including drug sales, was estimated in 2008 at $50 million per year. (End excerpts)

P.S. It looks like your "ruling class" is consisting of ruthless tyrants coming alive from the dusty pages of history books about ancient Korean kingdoms.

Don't take as gospel all that is written, especially all that is written in "Time" magazine.


Please continue your pipe dream about utopian socialism in your smoky den. :)



Oh pipe down!
:D

reedak
07-02-2018, 11:52 PM
Hi reedak, this is what I said I did not understand and so could not answer:

Dear North Korean comrade, it looks like I am talking to a brick wall all this while instead of writing on it. :)

reedak
08-02-2018, 12:04 AM
I have read it again several times and still don't get it. The first part is ok, some of the stories comming out of North Korea will be true, some false, some half true, and all will be used by Western propagandists to demonise N. Korea. You accept all the stories, I am more careful about what I believe. That is about the only answer I can give to that. Then there is the next bit. How whitewashing its actions and proving all humans on Earth evil has anything to do with what I said is still a mystery to me, Is there something incorrect in what I posted?


Dear North Korean comrade, it doesn't matter what you posted is incorrect as long as it is correct to your Supreme Leader. :)

reedak
08-02-2018, 12:17 AM
I ain't even Supreme Leader in our house:)

Dear North Korean comrade, I have to agree with you this time. How can you be the Supreme Leader in your house when Kim Jong-un is the Supreme Leader in all North Korean houses? :)

reedak
08-02-2018, 12:49 AM
If North Korea was not beside China and close to Russia they would have had a dose of American regime change long before they could have developed Nuclear Weapons. But they are where they are and now their weapons are one hell of a deterrent to the USA.


Dear North Korean comrade,

Yes, to you the fangs of a cat are one hell of a deterrent to a tiger, and a rooster can even kill an eagle too. To you, your jaws and teeth are one hell of a deterrent to a crocodile, and your head is hard as an iron ball. Please realise your deterrent dream at once by placing your head inside a crocodile's mouth. :)

By the way, your Supreme Leader's memory is fading fast even at a young age. He has forgotten that he is a living god who is "in full control of the wind and the snow and the clouds". Having a living god as its "emperor" who can catch every incoming nuclear missile with his bare hands, why would a country like this need nuclear deterrent? :D

http://www.scmp.com/news/asia/east-asia/article/2123944/kim-jong-uns-superpowers-north-korean-leader-can-control-weather

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/horrifying-moment-crocodile-clamps-jaws-10632316

reedak
08-02-2018, 02:29 AM
...some of the stories comming out of North Korea will be true, some false, some half true, and all will be used by Western propagandists to demonise N. Korea...

Dear North Korean comrade, everything is false or half true to you except the filth that spills out from the mouth of your Supreme Leader. :)

reedak
08-02-2018, 04:01 AM
...I am more careful about what I believe....

Dear North Korean comrade, you have to be more careful about what you believe, of course. Do you dare to believe anything else other than the filth from the mouth of your Supreme Leader? :)

reedak
08-02-2018, 11:46 AM
Don't take as gospel all that is written, especially all that is written in "Time" magazine.

Yes, dear North Korean comrade, why should you take all that is written (except your country's crazy political ideology) as gospel since you are locked "in a weird alternative reality" with your mind controlled by the "Unholy Trinity" of the Kim Dynasty?

P.S. Continue puffing smoke into the crocodile's mouth. :)

https://www.economist.com/blogs/erasmus/2013/04/venerating-kims

reedak
08-02-2018, 12:08 PM
North Korea invaded South Korea and so started a war of aggression. They are still trotting far behind the US in the aggression stakes.

Dear North Korean comrade, "trotting" is too slow for you and your impatient countrymen. What's needed for the North Korean forces is "charging" like crazy horses southward for another invasion. :)

eamo
08-02-2018, 03:05 PM
GODS TEETH, REEDAK..........is this some sort of psy-ops thing?
My phone is also my alarm clock and thanks to Tapatalk it lights up and goes "Bing Bong" when ever someone quotes one of my posts.

The fken thing was lighting up and binging bonging last night like there was a carnival in the room. Your post at 2.30 am got me and me phone thrown out of the bedroom and I heard some Gaelic that you wont find in school books. I was going to message you to tell you what a swell guy you are but as the phone doesn't remember my password I ended up locking myself out of PW.

The 4am post put the tin hat on it and I was awake on the sofa waiting for the next Bing Bleeden Bong until I had to get up at 6.30.

There is a multi-quote button. Would you please use it, and just as a matter of interest how do the time zones work on whatever planet you are posting from.

:)

reedak
08-02-2018, 05:45 PM
GODS TEETH, REEDAK..........is this some sort of psy-ops thing?
My phone is also my alarm clock and thanks to Tapatalk it lights up and goes "Bing Bong" when ever someone quotes one of my posts.

The fken thing was lighting up and binging bonging last night like there was a carnival in the room. Your post at 2.30 am got me and me phone thrown out of the bedroom and I heard some Gaelic that you wont find in school books. I was going to message you to tell you what a swell guy you are but as the phone doesn't remember my password I ended up locking myself out of PW.

The 4am post put the tin hat on it and I was awake on the sofa waiting for the next Bing Bleeden Bong until I had to get up at 6.30.


Dear North Korean comrade, pray that the next "Bing Bleeden Bong" won't come from your Supreme Leader as he is no different from Yama summoning you for reincarnation.


There is a multi-quote button. Would you please use it, and just as a matter of interest how do the time zones work on whatever planet you are posting from.

I prefer to use the single-quote button otherwise you may get the fright of your life, thinking that your Supreme Leader is summoning you back to his palace for losing the battle against capitalism. :)

https://www.ancient.eu/Yama/

reedak
08-02-2018, 07:27 PM
Yea...sometimes I do feel like a preserved specimen from a communist museum, but if humankind does not evolve an economic system above and beyond Capitalism we are not going to survive as a civilised species.

Dear North Korean comrade,

Such is the success of your "economic system above and beyond Capitalism" that your people have devolved into a "civilised species" surviving on grass and soil.

Such is the equality in your "economic system above and beyond Capitalism" that your pot-bellied billionaire tyrant (like the large, rather fierce-looking Berkshire boar Napoleon wallowing in luxury in George Orwell's Animal Farm) continues to splash his cash on superyachts, party islands, top quality champagne and his favourite Swiss cheese while his people struggle to survive on the bare minimum. :)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_Farm

https://edition.cnn.com/2014/02/16/world/asia/north-korea-un-report/index.html

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4387184/where-does-billionaire-kim-jong-un-get-all-his-money-to-spend-on-luxuries-such-as-superyachts-top-quality-champagne-and-his-favourite-swiss-cheese/

eamo
08-02-2018, 09:24 PM
I prefer to use the single-quote button otherwise you may get the fright of your life, thinking that your Supreme Leader is summoning you back to his palace for losing the battle against capitalism. :)


You are right to use the phrase "....losing the battle...", and not "lost the war".

Many battles have been lost, many battles have been won, the struggle goes on.

I remember the glee of the right-wing ideologues when the USSR fell. They thought it was the end of history. They could not get enough of Francis Fukuyama (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Fukuyama)and his idea that:


What we may be witnessing is not just the end of the Cold War, or the passing of a particular period of post-war history, but the end of history as such: that is, the end point of mankind's ideological evolution and the universalization of Western liberal democracy as the final form of human government.

How can obviously smart people like him come out with such nonsense. He is now rowing back at a furious pace but without any signs of embarrassment at being such a world class pratt back in the day.


Dear North Korean comrade,

Such is the success of your "economic system above and beyond Capitalism" that your people have devolved into a "civilised species" surviving on grass and soil.

Such is the equality in your "economic system above and beyond Capitalism" that your pot-bellied billionaire tyrant (like the large, rather fierce-looking Berkshire boar Napoleon wallowing in luxury in George Orwell's Animal Farm) continues to splash his cash on superyachts, party islands, top quality champagne and his favourite Swiss cheese while his people struggle to survive on the bare minimum. :)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_Farm

https://edition.cnn.com/2014/02/16/world/asia/north-korea-un-report/index.html

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4387184/where-does-billionaire-kim-jong-un-get-all-his-money-to-spend-on-luxuries-such-as-superyachts-top-quality-champagne-and-his-favourite-swiss-cheese/

If you disagree with what I posted then you must believe that the present capitalist system is sustainable. I do not believe it is. The above is just hot air and does not address in any way what it is supposed to be in response to, which was: "if humankind does not evolve an economic system above and beyond Capitalism we are not going to survive as a civilised species".

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Your posts are original and imaginative but sometimes it is hard to know when you are serious. You don't really think I am from North Korea, do you?

reedak
01-03-2018, 02:54 PM
You don't really think I am from North Korea, do you?

Your absurd question reminds me of a joke which goes as follows: ;)

One day, Jack went to visit his grandfather. On the way through a forest, he spotted a tiger approaching him in the distance. Fortunately before the tiger could get hold of him, he managed to climb up a tall tree.

Looking up at Jack from under the tree, the tiger roared: "Little boy, why are you running away from me?"

"Because you are going to eat me up!" replied Jack.

The tiger roared with laughter: "Why should I? I am a very gentle cat. My cruel master left me in the forest yesterday. I have been moving around in search of a new master. Come down and carry me home to be your pet."

Jack screeched: "No, you are a ferocious man-eating tiger!"

As though taken by surprise, the tiger asked: "You don't really think I am a tiger, do you?"

Jack screamed: "Yes, you are a tiger!"

The tiger roared: "No, I am a cat!"

"If you want to be a cat, let it be. But you are a very big, big cat!" shouted Jack.

eamo
01-03-2018, 04:30 PM
Your absurd question reminds me of a joke which goes as follows: ;)

Well I have heard better jokes.

If you don't want to say if you believe I am from North Korea, maybe you will tell us, are you from South Korea? Serious question. It would be interesting to hear from that part of the world and I know a lot of jokes do not travel well. I have been told "jokes" by people from Arab countries for example that would only be laughed at here out of politeness and I am sure some jokes from here would not be funny in foreign lands.

reedak
01-03-2018, 08:18 PM
...If you don't want to say if you believe I am from North Korea, maybe you will tell us, are you from South Korea?...

Well, I have to refer you to my previous joke in which the tiger was smart enough not to pose such a stupid question to Jack: "If you don't want to say if you believe I am from the wild, maybe you will tell me, are you from South Korea or somewhere else?" :)

eamo
01-03-2018, 08:42 PM
Well, I have to refer you to my previous joke in which the tiger was smart enough not to pose such a stupid question to Jack: "If you don't want to say if you believe I am from the wild, maybe you will tell me, are you from South Korea or somewhere else?" :)

Sorry reedak, I don't understand that at all. I think we are operating on two different planes, but I did find your "China rebukes US for “enacting unilateral sanctions” post interesting, and by the way.... I checked.......Tigers can climb trees:D

eamo
01-03-2018, 08:55 PM
The most embarrassing case of a joke not travelling well was when we sent Dustin the turkey to the European Song Contest.


https://youtu.be/GfuJaf6IBpk

That was just before the economic crash and the arrogance of the ruling class and the army of Irish gombeens knew no bounds.

Around the same time Charley Mc Creevey (I think it was) was lecturing Germany about how a country should run its economy. Cringe.

reedak
01-03-2018, 09:17 PM
I remember the glee of the right-wing ideologues when the USSR fell. They thought it was the end of history. They could not get enough of Francis Fukuyama (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Fukuyama)and his idea that:

How can obviously smart people like him come out with such nonsense. He is now rowing back at a furious pace but without any signs of embarrassment at being such a world class pratt back in the day.

You seem to be living in a time warp and need to be jolted back from the Soviet era to the reality of the 21st Century.

reedak
01-03-2018, 09:51 PM
.... I checked.......Tigers can climb trees:D

You should make further checks on climbing tigers before baring your teeth. He who laughs last, laughs best. :D

Please refer to the following true story at http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2357873/5-hunters-stuck-tree-4-days-tigers-prowling-One-man-eaten.html

Five Indonesian men were trapped up a tree by prowling Sumatran tigers. While tigers can climb trees, the terrified men had lodged themselves (like Jack in my joke) onto slender branches that would not have borne the weight of a tiger.

https://www.reference.com/pets-animals/can-tigers-climb-trees-9f8c7f0621c494e

eamo
01-03-2018, 10:29 PM
You should make further checks on climbing tigers before baring your teeth. He who laughs last, laughs best. :D

Please refer to the following true story at http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2357873/5-hunters-stuck-tree-4-days-tigers-prowling-One-man-eaten.html

Five Indonesian men were trapped up a tree by prowling Sumatran tigers. While tigers can climb trees, the terrified men had lodged themselves (like Jack in my joke) onto slender branches that would not have borne the weight of a tiger.

https://www.reference.com/pets-animals/can-tigers-climb-trees-9f8c7f0621c494e

So tigers can climb trees, just like I said.

When I googled "can tigers climb trees this is the first thing that came up:


There have been occasions of men climbing trees to escape an attacking tiger, only to be killed when the tiger followed them up.

from here: https://www.quora.com/How-good-are-lions-and-tigers-at-climbing-1

And you are mistaken when you accuse me of "baring your teeth". I was doing no such thing.
We really are at cross purposes. I am not an agent for anyone or anything as you seem to think. I am not trying to put you down in any way. I think you have a strange way of expressing yourself which can be hard to interpret sometimes, and some other times can be a bit daft, but the world would be a duller place if some of us were not a little daft;)

reedak
01-03-2018, 11:17 PM
So tigers can climb trees, just like I said.

When I googled "can tigers climb trees this is the first thing that came up:


from here: https://www.quora.com/How-good-are-lions-and-tigers-at-climbing-1

You still do not admit your mistake by putting forward a lame argument.

Taking an example, you can't claim to be able to cook if you can only boil water.

In an alarming encounter with a tiger (but not a leopard), you still have a chance to escape death by climbing up to the slender branches of a tall tree.

That's why the tiger could not get hold of Jack in my joke but tried to trick him into getting down from the tree.

eamo
02-03-2018, 07:42 AM
In an alarming encounter with a tiger (but not a leopard), you still have a chance to escape death by climbing up to the slender branches of a tall tree.



You are right, and if ever I have an alarming encounter with a tiger I will be up that tree like a scalded monkey and I wont be inquiring if it is a tiger or a leopard:D