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TotalMayhem
19-06-2017, 11:22 PM
Murderous Commie bastards...


Otto Warmbier, the 22-year-old student who was returned to the US in a coma last week after 17 months as a prisoner in North Korea, has died in a Cincinnati hospital, his parents announced.

“It is our sad duty to report that our son, Otto Warmbier, has completed his journey home. Surrounded by his loving family, Otto died today at 2.20pm,” Fred and Cindy Warmbier wrote in a statement on Monday.

They added that his death had been inevitable as a result of “the awful torturous mistreatment our son received at the hands of the North Koreans”.

The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jun/19/otto-warmbier-dies-coma-student-north-korea-prison)

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reedak
20-06-2017, 04:52 AM
Otto Warmbier, the 22-year-old student of University of Virginia, held for 17 months in prison with hard labour by the Kim regime for allegedly trying to steal a propaganda poster, had been in a coma since returning home from North Korea. He died less than a week after his release.

Prior to that, Donald Trump bragged before a crowd in Miami on Friday that he had brought American Otto Warmbier home. Now in response to Warmbier's death, Trump decried North Korea as a “brutal regime”.

Besides executing his own uncle, the North Korean dictator had committed such crimes as killing his half brother Kim Jong-nam with a chemical weapon. To force Malaysia to accede to his demands for the return of Kim Jong-nam's body and safe passage for the three North Korean criminals hiding in the embassy, the North Korean tyrant held three Malaysian diplomats and six family members - including four children - hostage in Pyongyang.

If Warmbier's captivity and death occurred before the Second World War, a thousand ships could have been launched in an American version of the Trojan War and North Korea would be bombed to ashes. Comparing such Middle East despots as Saddam Hussein and Muammar Gaddafi with the North Korean tyrant is just like comparing midgets with a giant monster. Those Middle East midgets had mostly perished from the earth but the North Korean devil incarnate is still at large doing all sorts of evils in this world. America's impotence against the North Korean devil incarnate shows that it is on a steady decline and could never stand up again. “Make America Great Again” is just an empty slogan.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jun/19/otto-warmbier-dies-coma-student-north-korea-prison

http://globalnews.ca/video/3534423/trump-brags-about-getting-otto-warmbier-back-from-north-korea/

http://globalnews.ca/video/3540639/donald-trump-calls-north-korea-brutal-regime-after-death-of-u-s-student

http://globalnews.ca/video/3530463/otto-warmbiers-father-slams-north-korea-for-his-sons-condition/

http://nypost.com/2017/06/19/trump-calls-north-korea-a-brutal-regime-after-student-dies/

http://www.todayonline.com/world/asia/11-malaysians-currently-trapped-north-korea-foreign-ministry

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/07/world/asia/kim-jong-nam-north-korea-malaysia-travel-ban.html

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-malaysia-kim-idUSKBN1711NI

http://www.businessinsider.sg/trump-make-america-great-again-slogan-history-2017-1/?r=US&IR=T#rEy30HTKms7RoGCM.97

C. Flower
20-06-2017, 11:03 AM
What did he die of ?

Ceannaire
20-06-2017, 11:22 AM
Otto Warmbier died of brain injury of uncertain cause. The North Korean medical authorities co-operated with their US counterparts in sending scans of the brain and the US doctors have indicated there is no injuries consistent with beatings and have not suggested that he died as a result of torture or maltreatment. As such, claiming that he was "tortured to death" is not backed up by the available medical evidence.

It is worth bearing in mind that other US citizens held captive in North Korea were unharmed on release. As such, judgement should be reserved.

TotalMayhem
20-06-2017, 12:00 PM
As such, claiming that he was "tortured to death" is not backed up by the available medical evidence.

US intelligence got it all wrong then?


A senior American official has said the United States obtained intelligence reports that he had been repeatedly beaten.

NYT (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/14/world/asia/north-korea-otto-warmbier-.html)

C. Flower
20-06-2017, 01:00 PM
US intelligence got it all wrong then?

NYT (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/14/world/asia/north-korea-otto-warmbier-.html)

The NYT describes the allegation if true as "a mystery" as it would be so a-typical of past experience.

The worst complaint was from this 'missionary':


“Several North Korean women surrounded me and did the worst thing to me to try to make me commit suicide"

TotalMayhem
20-06-2017, 02:05 PM
Falling into a coma after taking a sleeping pill is quite atypical as well, no?

(but maybe "sleeping pill" is commie lingo for nightstick...)

dedogs
20-06-2017, 02:44 PM
What did he die of ?

a monday.... :):):) in all seriousness though mate any lad goes to 1 of them mad **** countrys its his own look out if it goes hard on him like yerman hallwa in egypt as well....

C. Flower
20-06-2017, 06:32 PM
I doubt there is any country without any prison deaths.

Count Bobulescu
20-06-2017, 06:41 PM
I don't think the US is going to get too upset over this. Bigger issues at stake.

Ceannaire
20-06-2017, 07:32 PM
Falling into a coma after taking a sleeping pill is quite atypical as well, no?

(but maybe "sleeping pill" is commie lingo for nightstick...)

Just because I'm questioning one explanation doesn't mean I automatically have to buy into the North Korean explanation. All I'm saying is that those who are qualified aren't promoting the claim that his injuries were acquired by beatings or torture. It could have resulted from an attempted suicide. That would explain why the North Koreans are presenting an arguably less plausible explanation (attempted suicide doesn't reflect well on their detention/prison system) while also explaining the lack of evidence of a beating. But this is pure speculation on my part.



US intelligence got it all wrong then?

Wouldn't be the first time...anyone still remember Saddam and his imaginary arsenal?

Saoirse go Deo
21-06-2017, 02:02 AM
Family are not allowing an autopsy to be preformed.

C. Flower
21-06-2017, 09:08 AM
Family are not allowing an autopsy to be preformed.

Very odd.

dedogs
21-06-2017, 03:20 PM
Family are not allowing an autopsy to be preformed.

ha you know whats goin on there mate???? he was grand when he left korea but the cia poisined him and they wont let them do an autopsy!!!! bet trumps lookin for an excuse to invade korea!!!!

Count Bobulescu
21-06-2017, 03:48 PM
ha you know whats goin on there mate???? he was grand when he left korea but the cia poisined him and they wont let them do an autopsy!!!! bet trumps lookin for an excuse to invade korea!!!!
Ya robbed the words from me mouth.

pluralist
22-06-2017, 12:12 AM
Murderous Commie bastards...




North Korea is not a Communist state, under any ordinary understanding of that ideology. In so far as I can gather, it seems to be a isolationist feudalist extreme oligopoly. Class structures seem to be deeply embedded in their system (unless every single Westerner that has reported on the state is lying, which seems unlikely).