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Hapax
19-03-2016, 12:22 PM
Last night's resignation by Iain Duncan Smith looks like launching David Cameron's government into full-scale civil war. In his letter of resignation, IDS tries to position himself as champion of the weak against the wealthy, however unlikely that may seem to anyone who knows his own record as a callous enemy of the British welfare services:


I have for some time and rather reluctantly come to believe that the latest changes to benefits to the disabled and the context in which they've been made are a compromise too far. While they are defensible in narrow terms, given the continuing deficit, they are not defensible in the way they were placed within a Budget that benefits higher earning taxpayers. They should have instead been part of a wider process to engage others in finding the best way to better focus resources on those most in need.

I am unable to watch passively whilst certain policies are enacted in order to meet the fiscal self imposed restraints that I believe are more and more perceived as distinctly political rather than in the national economic interest.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35848891

Cameron's reply talks in terms of surprise and disappointment:


We all agreed that the increased resources being spent on disabled people should be properly managed and focused on those who need it most.
That is why we collectively agreed - you, No 10 and the Treasury - proposals which you and your department then announced a week ago.

Today we agreed not to proceed with the policies in their current form and instead to work together to get these policies right over the coming months.
In the light of this, I am puzzled and disappointed that you have chosen to resign.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35849331

It's the non-squitur in Cameron's final paragraph that makes clear what much of this explosion is about:


While we are on different sides in the vital debate about the future of Britain's relations with Europe, the government will, of course, continue with its policy of welfare reform . . .

He's trying to keep the focus on IDS's ostensible reason for resignation, the budget welfare cuts, but it's Europe that's the real focus, along with an attempt to block Osborne from succeeding Cameron as PM.

It's looking like full-scale war among the Tories, just as a poll shows Labour pulling into a lead (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/new-poll-puts-labour-ahead-of-tories-for-first-time-since-jeremy-corbyn-became-leader-a6937926.html) for the first time since Corbyn's election, which should quiet the Blairite plotters for a while.

pluralist
19-03-2016, 12:29 PM
I'd reckon Corbyn has certainly upped his game of late in his parliamentary performances.

What has also helped him is that the Tories are experiencing, as you state, a civil war almost reminiscent of the Major era, and some of his internal Labour opponents have their own issues - the most outspoken Corbyn critic in the PLP, Simon Danczuk, is embroiled in all kinds of (entirely self-created) scandals about expenses, inappropriate texts to 17 year olds and the like.

Hapax
19-03-2016, 04:38 PM
I'd reckon Corbyn has certainly upped his game of late in his parliamentary performances.

What has also helped him is that the Tories are experiencing, as you state, a civil war almost reminiscent of the Major era, and some of his internal Labour opponents have their own issues - the most outspoken Corbyn critic in the PLP, Simon Danczuk, is embroiled in all kinds of (entirely self-created) scandals about expenses, inappropriate texts to 17 year olds and the like.

Yes, Corbyn and McDonnell are getting a lot of credit for "facilitating" this fragmentation among the Tories. The joy of it is that they've achieved this simply by sticking to their own principled long-term strategy. And it's a wonderful bonus, of course, that they're settling the hash of the Blairites in the process. On the government side, since these are deep wounds that go back to the Thatcher era and beyond, the fact that they've been reopened with such anger and openness bodes well for anyone who cares about such issues as the NHS, Trident, and the future of Britain's schools.


bad news for Cameron and pro-Austerity Conservatives, it is even worse news for Blairites in the Labour party. Not only does it mean that Jeremy Corbyn's anti-austerity, pro-investment platform has been right morally, and economically - it means he has been right tactically.

Like the Scottish National Party in Scotland, and Plaid Cymru in Wales, the Corbyn-McDonnell partnership has presented the electorate with a genuine choice, and been unflappable in the face of everything a unitedly hostile press has thrown at them. They can rightly interpret this move by IDS as public recognition that if the Conservatives go into the 2020 election as a pro-Austerity party, they will lose.

The departure of Iain Duncan Smith on Friday has turned several long-running cold wars in UK politics red hot. The real reasons behind his departure explain why 2016 might serve to be one of the most dramatic, high stakes years the UK politics has seen in decades. Not only could we be witnessing the end of austerity, but the end of the Conservative government.

http://www.thecanary.co/2016/03/19/the-real-reasons-behind-iain-duncan-smiths-resignation-signal-the-beginning-of-the-battle-for-britains/

C. Flower
19-03-2016, 04:48 PM
While we are on different sides in the vital debate about the future of Britain's relations with Europe, the government will, of course, continue with its policy of welfare reform . . .

No question about this, breaking up what is left of the Welfare State brings them all together, irrespective of where they stand on how best to shore up Britain's waning international influence.

Hapax
19-03-2016, 07:18 PM
It appears that being a reactionary Tory git is not a curable condition.


it has now emerged that Mr Crabb is hiding more than just his chin from the public. It seems that he has airbrushed from his biography, as featured on his website, his connection to a fundamentalist Christian group that opposes gay equality and promotes the idea that homosexuality can be "cured”.

The Christian Action Research and Education charity (Care) "actively supports and encourages marriage between a man and a woman”, and once co-sponsored a conference that looked at "therapeutic approaches to same-sex attraction”.

Care was condemned in 2012 when it was revealed to have placed paid-for interns in 20 MPs' offices, including Mr Crabb's.

Five MPs, including David Lammy, a former Labour minister, and Liz Kendall, the shadow minister for care and older people, subsequently cut their ties with the charity. Ms Kendall said she found the group's views "deeply offensive”.

But in the MPs' rush to distance themselves from Care, Mr Crabb – who started his career as a Care intern – was conspicuous by his absence.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/10977858/People-diary-Welsh-Secretary-Stephen-Crabbs-close-shave-with-gay-cure-group.html

Donal Og
20-03-2016, 11:44 AM
Crabb also fiddled his expenses. Peanuts by Dil ireann standards no doubt but still. PMQs next week.. a great chance for Corbyn to attack the Tories. Hope he doesn't blow it by endless waffling like Kinnock did when Thatcher's cabinet imploded... these moments don't come often.

morticia
20-03-2016, 09:28 PM
Crabb also fiddled his expenses. Peanuts by Dil ireann standards no doubt but still. PMQs next week.. a great chance for Corbyn to attack the Tories. Hope he doesn't blow it by endless waffling like Kinnock did when Thatcher's cabinet imploded... these moments don't come often.

Carpe diem, Jez, carpe diem.

must say, it is truly delightful to see such levels of disorder in the Tories; amazingly with 2 months left to go until The Vote.

I feel that the Tories should be given more credit for their sterling innovations in the area of expense fiddling. IIRC, I don't recall anyone in the Dail claiming expenses for motte repairs, tons of manure or floating duck houses. Mind you, how many TDs own actual castles?? Rhetorical question....:rolleyes:

Down with that sort of thing!

DCon
21-03-2016, 05:31 AM
The gift that keeps giving


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DCon
21-03-2016, 05:31 AM
The gift that keeps giving


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