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Saoirse go Deo
15-01-2014, 02:20 PM
Anyone been watching this on Channel 4? Basically it follows the lives of a group of people living on a street in a British city (Birmingham I think) most of whom are on the dole.

Not sure what to think of it myself - divided between thinking it is disgraceful for holding up these people as objects of hatred and thinking that it might be good as it exposed the idiotic racism against Romanians for what it is and told what is sadly a typical immigrant story. In this weeks episode one of the street's residents, himself a victim of sexual abuse and on all sorts of medications for his mental health, and welfare as a result, commenting on the Romanian family who just moved in said that they earned "thousands of pounds" a week. In fact they were living in a vastly overcrowded house with no gas and their youngest child was having to beg the landlord not to kick them out.

Dr. FIVE
15-01-2014, 02:41 PM
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fluffybiscuits
15-01-2014, 03:53 PM
Anyone been watching this on Channel 4? Basically it follows the lives of a group of people living on a street in a British city (Birmingham I think) most of whom are on the dole.

Not sure what to think of it myself - divided between thinking it is disgraceful for holding up these people as objects of hatred and thinking that it might be good as it exposed the idiotic racism against Romanians for what it is and told what is sadly a typical immigrant story. In this weeks episode one of the street's residents, himself a victim of sexual abuse and on all sorts of medications for his mental health, and welfare as a result, commenting on the Romanian family who just moved in said that they earned "thousands of pounds" a week. In fact they were living in a vastly overcrowded house with no gas and their youngest child was having to beg the landlord not to kick them out.

Im good friends with a group in Birmingham who fight for social justice in Brimingham. Most of them have said and feel that most of the programme is just entertainment and not doing anything positive in reality for most of the community. Some BNP supporters are jumping on the bandwagon and using as an excuse they said to point out the usual stereotyped bullshit about immigrants. Channel 4 has good coverage of what its like in reality for working class (The Secret Millionaire, Educating Yorkshire etc.) so how this made is past an editorial board is confusing.

RaggedTrousers
15-01-2014, 08:41 PM
It certainly puts paid to the myth that those reliant on benefits have massive TVs, 2 holidays a year etc etc. I think the programme is edited very carefully to pitch the 'deserving poor' (50p man, Romanian men working for 10 a day) against the 'undeserving poor' (Fungi, Black Dee).

Saoirse go Deo
15-01-2014, 08:53 PM
It certainly puts paid to the myth that those reliant on benefits have massive TVs, 2 holidays a year etc etc. I think the programme is edited very carefully to pitch the 'deserving poor' (50p man, Romanian men working for 10 a day) against the 'undeserving poor' (Fungi, Black Dee).

I agree with you there.

It was brushed over that Fungi (I think it was him) had suffered sexual abuse which had caused all kinds of mental trauma while the struggles of the Romanian people got lots of attention.

Spectabilis
15-01-2014, 09:00 PM
I only managed 5 minutes of it and saw what you noted first. I didn't get to see any redeeming feature of the programme in relation to the real lives of Romanians. My brief viewing made me think exploitative and undermining of the poor.

We had a programme on TV3 a while back which set out to show that there was a criminal underworld of Romanian beggars. It ended up concluding much the same as you describe. Poor people, struggling, no state support, no evidence of the profits of begging. 'Paul Connolly Investigates' We discussed it here.

Saoirse go Deo
16-01-2014, 11:00 AM
Residents of a Birmingham street furious at their portrayal in Channel 4's controversial documentary series Benefits Street will be given a right of reply in a live one-hour TV debate.


Benefits Street, thought to be the broadcaster's biggest rating programme since the Paralympics in 2012, has prompted a storm of protest from critics who labelled it "poverty porn", and complaints from people on James Turner Street who claimed they were tricked into taking part.


The debate will air on Channel 4 immediately after the fifth and final episode of Benefits Street on 10 February and will be chaired by Richard Bacon.
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/jan/16/benefits-street-residents-live-broadcast?CMP=fb_gu


Radio 4 reported that many residents they interviewed "condemned the programme".

One anonymous working couple said that they had been filmed for a year by Love Productions, the company that produces the show, but were not included in the final cut because they were employed.

"Why was a working couple on the street filmed extensively for a year", asked the resident, "to be told that the the number of episodes had been cut from six to five and we were meant to feature in the sixth?"

"As a working couple we have been cut out of the show because we are working", he added, "Channel 4 lied to us".
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/10575921/Benefits-Street-cut-us-out-because-we-were-working-couple-claims.html

fluffybiscuits
17-01-2014, 02:46 PM
I only managed 5 minutes of it and saw what you noted first. I didn't get to see any redeeming feature of the programme in relation to the real lives of Romanians. My brief viewing made me think exploitative and undermining of the poor.

We had a programme on TV3 a while back which set out to show that there was a criminal underworld of Romanian beggars. It ended up concluding much the same as you describe. Poor people, struggling, no state support, no evidence of the profits of begging. 'Paul Connolly Investigates' We discussed it here.

Republic of Telly did it perfet in a sketch they were covering

At teh start of a skit just before expose they said

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Saoirse go Deo
20-01-2014, 09:56 PM
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smiles
21-01-2014, 10:47 AM
Surreal when the street of your childhood is featured in such a negative light.. No wonder my parents packed us up and moved us over the pond. I remember an old man on that street who lived with his small dog, every week he would post a few Breakaway bars through the letterbox of all of the houses with children. Probably a large enough chunk of his income back then.. But it was like christmas every time... Spent a lot of my youth climbing the lamposts on that street and I still love the sound of trains passing..

Kev Bar
21-01-2014, 11:20 AM
I only managed 5 minutes of it and saw what you noted first. I didn't get to see any redeeming feature of the programme in relation to the real lives of Romanians. My brief viewing made me think exploitative and undermining of the poor.

We had a programme on TV3 a while back which set out to show that there was a criminal underworld of Romanian beggars. It ended up concluding much the same as you describe. Poor people, struggling, no state support, no evidence of the profits of begging. 'Paul Connolly Investigates' We discussed it here.

We did indeed. And sure the whole State Roma snatching episode seem to stem from the fact that Paul C is a bad loser.

musashi
21-01-2014, 03:43 PM
Yeh I've been watching. Really affected me, seeing those Roma crammed into two rooms. And that Pakistani junkie, very sad.

Kev Bar
21-01-2014, 04:36 PM
Yeh I've been watching. Really affected me, seeing those Roma crammed into two rooms. And that Pakistani junkie, very sad.

Yeah. It's very rare to meet a junkie who imparts joy.

musashi
21-01-2014, 05:17 PM
Yeah. It's very rare to meet a junkie who imparts joy.

True, the poor guy's psoriasis, jeez; he said he couldn't go back home 'cause he was ashamed.