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C. Flower
17-07-2013, 08:27 AM
Alan Shatter confirmed this morning on RTE that the Irish Government was requested on July 1st to send a unit of troops to the "UN Disengagement" force in the Golan Heights, there since the 1970s. The reason for sending them is that the Austrians have just withdrawn because it is too dangerous.
Given that there are conditions of incursion and civil war in Syria, it is a war zone. 5,000 people a month are dying in Syria and there are an estimated 6000 a month leaving as refugees.





More than 100 Irish troops are to be be sent to war-torn Syria as part of a United Nations observer force later this summer.
The Government yesterday approved the deployment of a 114-strong mechanised infantry unit to the Golan Heights at the request of the UN.
A Government spokesman said the Irish troops would not be acting as peacekeepers or peace enforcers but in an observer capacity.
“They will be in a position to respond quickly to situations as they develop,” he added. The addition of Irish troops will bring the UN force up to a strength of 1,250.
Last month, the Austrian government announced it was withdrawing its 380-strong force from the Golan Heights because the area had become too dangerous.

Deployment
Minister for Defence Alan Shatter announced he had secured the approval of the Cabinet for the deployment of the contingent for service with the UN Disengagement Observer Force in Syria which was originally established in 1974 following the war between Israel and Syria to monitor the situation at the Golan Heights.
Mr Shatter said he would proceed this week to seek the approval of Dáil Éireann for the mission.
The request for significant Irish involvement was made by the UN on July 1st when the Department of Defence was asked if it would consider contributing a mechanised infantry company for the tasks of a Force Mobile Reserve.
The Defence Forces have previous experience in a similar role in Liberia and Lebanon. Three Army personnel were deployed to the Golan Heights last month and a fourth will be sent shortly.The escalation of the civil war in Syria has affected the observer force’s area of operations significantly in recent months. Mr Shatter said if approved by the Dáil the role of the contingent would be to provide a mobile company at force headquarters to cater for reinforcement, escort and other operations.
He said the support of troop contributing countries such as Ireland to the observer force allowed the mission to continue implementing its mandate in a safe and secure manner.

Safeguard
Mr Shatter added that if the mission was approved by the Dáil this week it would complete the so-called triple lock safeguard procedure by which Ireland’s defence forces can only be deployed abroad with a combination of of UN, Government and Dáil approval.
The operation of the triple-lock system is one of the issues addressed in the Green Paper on Defence published by the Government yesterday.
It points to the central importance of the UN in granting legitimacy to peace support and crisis management missions.
“At the same time, it also constitutes a self-imposed, legal constraint on the State’s sovereignty in making decisions about the use of its armed forces. This could prevent the State from participating in a peace support operation,” adds the Green Paper.

Prevented
It points out that the triple lock prevented Ireland from participating in the EU-led mission to Macedonia in 2003.
The Green Paper acknowledges that there is substantial public support for the triple-lock mechanism.“On balance, the advantages of retaining the mechanism can be seen as outweighing the disadvantages,” says the document.
However, Fianna Fail accused the Government of endangering Irish neutrality by raising questions about the triple lock procedure in he Green Paper

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/irish-troops-to-be-sent-to-syria-as-part-of-un-force-1.1465815 (http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/irish-troops-to-be-sent-to-syria-as-part-of-un-force-1.1465815)

Kid Ryder
17-07-2013, 01:37 PM
This has nothing to do with any concern on the govt's part for civil society or 'law and order' in Syria. It's all about Oireland Inc. wanting to show itself willing to do the Empire's bidding.

Holly
17-07-2013, 07:45 PM
Essentially, the Irish troops will be guarding the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights.

http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/j480/rogerduke1/Golan_zpsb4df6fb9.jpg
Israeli troops on the occupied Golan

Count Bobulescu
17-07-2013, 08:33 PM
This has nothing to do with any concern on the govt's part for civil society or 'law and order' in Syria. It's all about Oireland Inc. wanting to show itself willing to do the Empire's bidding.
That's funny! You obviously didn't read as far as the second sentence of the IT report.

musashi
17-07-2013, 11:02 PM
Essentially, the Irish troops will be guarding the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights.

http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/j480/rogerduke1/Golan_zpsb4df6fb9.jpg
Israeli troops on the occupied Golan

The Golan Heights is Syrian land (as I see it) currently occupied by Israel, as the Syrian Civil war escalates the probability of other local actors being dragged in to the melee increases.

The Austrians last month moved to withdraw their 380 troops. The area has become too dangerous, why?
I reckon this is because Syria is currently being flooded with munitions, supplied by Russia, US and Europe. This war is a civil war but it is also a proxy war between several superpowers for control. Russia supplies military hardware for the authoritarian regime, The US supplies their opponents, in this case The Free Syrian Army and their supporters, with like weapons.
Syria is a powder keg, and it can only get bigger.

C. Flower
17-07-2013, 11:16 PM
That's funny! You obviously didn't read as far as the second sentence of the IT report.

What makes you think that would make any difference ?

Count Bobulescu
18-07-2013, 05:50 AM
What makes you think that would make any difference ?
Your question implies that if KR had read that 2nd sentence s/he would still be unable to distinguish between the UN and US.
Based on the posting I quoted, plus other posts by KR I do not ascribe that level of cognitive dissonance to KR. So it's logical for me to conclude reading it would have made a difference. If you implied the same about me I'd be offended.

That's an hilarious headline in the IT.

Fraught region awaits arrival of Ireland’s UN forces (http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/middle-east/fraught-region-awaits-arrival-of-ireland-s-un-forces-1.1466936)

Like they have nothing else to worry about but the arrival of 100 Irish troops.

fluffybiscuits
19-07-2013, 04:12 PM
This has nothing to do with any concern on the govt's part for civil society or 'law and order' in Syria. It's all about Oireland Inc. wanting to show itself willing to do the Empire's bidding.

+1

Fodder for the guns...

C. Flower
30-08-2014, 06:35 PM
The Golan Heights is Syrian land (as I see it) currently occupied by Israel, as the Syrian Civil war escalates the probability of other local actors being dragged in to the melee increases.

The Austrians last month moved to withdraw their 380 troops. The area has become too dangerous, why?
I reckon this is because Syria is currently being flooded with munitions, supplied by Russia, US and Europe. This war is a civil war but it is also a proxy war between several superpowers for control. Russia supplies military hardware for the authoritarian regime, The US supplies their opponents, in this case The Free Syrian Army and their supporters, with like weapons.
Syria is a powder keg, and it can only get bigger.

Right in the firing line, today. Austria got it right.

http://www.eveningecho.ie/2014/08/30/irish-troops-deployed-to-extract-un-colleagues-amid-golan-heights-clashes/

riposte
01-09-2014, 06:13 PM
The Taoiseach has said he does not want Irish soldiers to be "put at undue risk" in Syria. Surely he could not have been stupid enough to think sending them there in the first place was putting them at undue risk.


Irish troops deployed with the UN peacekeeping force in the Golan Heights, Syria (UNDOF) have been involved in a number of missions to rescue UN colleagues under fire from rebel forces, a Defence Forces spokesperson has confirmed.

The Irish UN peacekeeper battalion, which is tasked with emergency responses, was deployed yesterday and this morning, the spokesperson said.

Clashes in the area erupted on Wednesday after Syrian rebel groups, including the Nusra Front, overran the Quneitra crossing – located on the frontier between Syrian and Israeli controlled parts of the Golan Heights – on Wednesday, seizing 44 Fijian peacekeepers.

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/irish-troops-deployed-to-extract-un-colleagues-amid-golan-heights-clashes-640640.html

C. Flower
01-09-2014, 06:33 PM
The Taoiseach has said he does not want Irish soldiers to be "put at undue risk" in Syria. Surely he could not have been stupid enough to think sending them there in the first place was putting them at undue risk.

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/irish-troops-deployed-to-extract-un-colleagues-amid-golan-heights-clashes-640640.html

Given that they were sent to replace the Austrians, who were leaving because they said it was too dangerous, I guess that Kenny and Shatter felt the 'sacrifice' was worth it for the international political credibility they would buy in terms of their future careers.

C. Flower
12-10-2014, 01:49 PM
Israeli backed al Nusrah ousts UN peacekeepers from the Golan heights. The UN says that Israel and al Nusrah share intelligence.

http://nsnbc.me/2014/09/17/israeli-backed-al-nusrah-ousts-un-peacekeepers-syrian-golan/