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16-09-2012, 12:18 AM
A weekend of political thought and discussion
Friday to Sunday, 14-16 September 2012
The Ireland Institute, 27 Pearse Street, Dublin 2

I attended the two sessions yesterday. Mick O'Reilly gave an excellent talk at the first session.

Further information here.......http://www.greavesschool.com/

16-09-2012, 09:36 AM
I thought this might be of interest.

C. Flower
16-09-2012, 12:30 PM
I thought this might be of interest.

Looks a fascinating programme - I didn't hear about it in time to go, but would very much have liked to.

I wonder if any of the papers are available?

What was said at the sessions that you went to ?

C. Flower
16-09-2012, 12:32 PM

Friday 14 September at 7:30 pm

The relevance of Republicanism after 90 years of the Irish State

Mary Murphy, Lecturer in Irish Politics and Society, NUI Maynooth; co-author of Towards the Second Republic: Irish politics after the Celtic Tiger.
Micheál MacAonghusa, Freelance journalist and commentator.

Tommy McKearney, Organiser, Independent Workers’ Union; journalist, Fourthwrite magazine.

Saturday 15 September at 11.00 am

National sovereignty and interdependence

Andy Storey, Lecturer, School of Politics and International Relations, UCD; chairperson of Afri. Sheila Killian, Head of Department and Senior Lecturer, Accounting and Finance, University of Limerick. Mick O’Reilly, President, Dublin Council of Trade Unions; former Regional Secretary of Unite. Chair

Patricia McKenna, political activist, People’s Movement; former MEP.

Saturday 15 September at 2.30 pm

Towards genuine political democracy

Frank Connolly, Head of Communications, SIPTU; former executive director, The Centre for Public Inquiry.
Bernadette McAliskey, Northern civil rights activist and MP for Mid-Ulster 1969-74; currently coordinator of the South Tyrone Empowerment Programme.
Catherine Murphy TD, Independent Dáil Deputy for Kildare North.


Maureen O’Sullivan TD, Independent Dáil Deputy for Dublin Central.

Sunday 16 September at 11.00 am

An economy for the common good

Terence McDonough, Professor of Economics, NUI Galway.
Mary Lou McDonald TD, Vice-President of Sinn Fein and Dáil Deputy for Dublin Central.
Eugene McCartan, General Secretary, Communist Party of Ireland.

Esther Lynch, Legal and Social Affairs Officer, ICTU.

Sunday 16 September at 2.30 pm

National independence – what does it mean today?

Nessa Ní Chasaide, Coordinator, Debt and Development Coalition, Ireland.
Conor McCarthy, Lecturer in English, NUI Maynooth, author of Modernisation, Crisis and Culture in Ireland 1969-1992.
Desmond Fennell, writer and cultural philosopher; author of The State of the Nation, The revision of European history, Ireland after the end of Western civilization etc.


Owen Bennett, writer and political analyst.

17-09-2012, 12:29 AM
Yesterday Mick O'Rielly stole the show when regaled us with his exploits going for a swim on the Falls Road in Belfast. He said that he could not find a republican in Belfast who was in favour of a United Ireland. So long as were tied into the Euro ... a united Ireland was off the agenda for all Republicans in the six counties.

Today Terry McDonough was excellent .. gave a great power point presentation..... said we have two choices ...... fight for a purging of the debt at either national or at European level...... he said we can't do both at the same time .... it has to be one or the other ..... the actions to achieve one would be counter to the other. He said that in the long term .... we must leave the Euro.

Eugene gave us a very long lecture on the evils of capitalism. He didn't like my joke about the Bible, nomads and the writings of Marx.

Mary Lou dodged the question of the Euro ..in or out.

Desmond Fennell was most entertaining ...... and came dressed just like Mick Wallace. speaking about Irish identity . he said we had none ...... we had abandoned everything....... the language.... our Catholicism etc....... he said our National Symbol was the Spire in O'Connell Street ..... which symbolised nothing.

Next Year will be the 25th Summerschool ........ and the 100th Anniversary of the Birth of Greaves... they are hoping to do it big.

The whole event was videoed and will be put on their website in the near future.


Captain Con O'Sullivan
17-09-2012, 08:47 AM
Sounds an interesting bunch ... although i must admit I will go like an Exocet for any man or woman who maintains 'catholicism' is intrinsically Irish. I'll leave that one there. Hate this historical inaccuracy and blatant propagandising.

Probably would not get along with the communists either except to offer them a bun like some kind of last remaining woolly mammoth. But it was an interesting line-up otherwise by the looks of it.

17-09-2012, 09:35 AM



C. Flower
17-09-2012, 11:43 AM
Thanks for the report. I'm looking forward to watching the video.

17-09-2012, 11:45 AM
Thanks for the report. I'm looking forward to watching the video.

I have posted links to video's from previous years above.

C. Flower
17-09-2012, 12:19 PM
I have posted links to video's from previous years above.


he could not find a republican in Belfast who was in favour of a United Ireland

This seems to be a fairly extreme claim. Do you think he meant it, and is right ?

Why not unite Ireland and take it out of the Euro ?

17-09-2012, 12:24 PM

This seems to be a fairly extreme claim. Do you think he meant it, and is right ?

Why not unite Ireland and take it out of the Euro ?

Thanks exactly what Roy Johnston said ........ and he got no objections from Mary Lou.

C. Flower
17-09-2012, 12:41 PM
Thanks exactly what Roy Johnston said ........ and he got no objections from Mary Lou.

When did Roy Johnstone say that ?

I wouldn't be surprised by anyone in the Sinn Fein leadership having that view. The GFA arrangements were a major setback to the prospect of a United Ireland.

17-09-2012, 01:13 PM
When did Roy Johnstone say that ?

Yesterday at 12.50 pm to be precise. ....lol !! Just in case you are wondering Tony Coughlan, Robert Ballagh, Rose Dugdale and other high profile figures such as myself were also present ... lol !!

05-08-2014, 06:05 PM
A weekend of political thought and discussion
Friday to Sunday
12-14 September 2014
The Ireland Institute
27 Pearse Street
Dublin 2

Friday 12th September at 7:30 pm
The Ideology of Remembrance: Ireland and the First World War

Brian Hanley - historian, author of A Documentary History of the IRA, 1916-2005 and The Lost Revolution (with Scott Millar).
Michael Quinn - historian, has recently completed a doctorate on Irish-Soviet relations, currently specialising in Ireland and First World War.
Tommy Graham - historian, editor and founder of History Ireland magazine.

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Saturday 13th September at 11.00 am
The Good Friday Agreement today

Anne Cadwallader - journalist, case worker with The Pat Finucane Centre for Human Rights, author of Lethal Allies: British Collusion in Ireland.
Tom McGurk - broadcaster, Sunday Business Post political columnist.
Declan Kearney - National Chairman, Sinn Féin.
Peter Bunting - Assistant General Secretary, ICTU, with responsibility for the Trade Union Movement in Northern Ireland.

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Saturday 13th September at 2.30 pm
Politics and the physical force tradition in Ireland

Tommy McKearney - socialist republican, participant in the 1980 H-Block hunger-strike, Northern organiser for The Independent Workers Union.
Eoin Ó Murchú - journalist and longtime campaigner for Irish sovereignty.
Mícheál Mac Donncha - Sinn Féin Councillor Dublin City Council, former editor An Phoblacht, author of Sinn Féin, A Century of Struggle.
Ruán O'Donnell - historian, University of Limerick, author of Special Category: The IRA in English Prisons 1968-1978 and other books.

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Sunday 14th September at 11.00 am
Imperialism and the national question in Ireland

John Foster - Joint author Red Papers on Scotland; Emeritus Professor, Social Sciences, West of Scotland University; Secretary, Scottish Campaign against Euro-Federalism.
Kevin McCorry - People's Movement, former organiser NICRA.
Patricia McKenna - former MEP for Dublin, People's Movement.
Mary Cullen - historian, author of recently published Telling It Our way: Essays In Gender History.

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Sunday 14th September at 2.30 pm
Unionism and the Way Forward

Professor Peter Shirlow - Deputy Director, Institute for the Study of Conflict Transformation and Social Justice, Queen's University Belfast.
Linda Ervine - Irish Language Development Officer for East Belfast; sister-in-law of the late David Ervine.
Owen Bennett - writer.
Helena Sheehan - Professor Emeritus, Dublin City University; author of Irish TV drama, A Society and its Stories.

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Saoirse go Deo
05-08-2014, 08:26 PM
Gonna make it this year for sure.