View Full Version : John Delaney's quite extraordinary remuneration.
Slim Buddha
06-07-2012, 11:42 AM
Two World Cups and Two European titles between them since 2006 but the two guys running these football associations are earning a combined figure which is almost €100,000 short of John Delaney's monster pay packet!!!
Quite, quite extraordinary. Bollocks to austerity, eh, John?
http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/league-of-ireland/fai-chief-earns-250k-more-than-spain-and-italy-rivals-3160384.html
Sam Lord
06-07-2012, 11:51 AM
"You'll never beat his wages"
This was discussed on the Euros 2012 thread. it is an obscenity.
Sam Lord
06-07-2012, 11:53 AM
The Irish state apparently gives the FAI a grant of some 4 million every year. So discuss this with your TD"s.
Slim Buddha
06-07-2012, 11:57 AM
"You'll never beat his wages"
This was discussed on the Euros 2012 thread. it is an obscenity.
Such an obscenity, Sam, that it really deserves a thread of its own
Slim Buddha
06-07-2012, 11:58 AM
The Irish state apparently gives the FAI a grant of some 4 million every year. So discuss this with your TD"s.
......and 10% of that is trousered by Delaney! This really merits a lot more discussion!
Shaadi
06-07-2012, 12:14 PM
The fans and clubs should rebel, go on strike. Delaney's ridiculous wage is coming from the same pot that whatever limited funds that go into Irish football come from. He's literally taking the bite from the mouths of clubs that say they're starved for funding.
It's like the political scene, people get this kind of crap because they're willing to tolerate it.
Fans out drinking with him in Poland when they should be kicking his arse instead.
Slim Buddha
06-07-2012, 12:17 PM
The fans and clubs should rebel, go on strike. Delaney's ridiculous wage is coming from the same pot that whatever limited funds that go into Irish football come from. He's literally taking the bite from the mouths of clubs that say they're starved for funding.
It's like the political scene, people get this kind of crap because they're willing to tolerate it.
Fans out drinking with him in Poland when they should be kicking his arse instead.
Ireland has an incredibly high tolerance for BS. If we could bottle and export BS, we could bail out the entire Eurozone.
Ogiol
06-07-2012, 12:18 PM
Absolutely shocking. I dont understand how this can be maintained/justified with it being in the public eye. So hopefully itll be reduced to an average industrial wage,,,for the new boy coming in!
culmore
06-07-2012, 12:20 PM
If the FAI can affort to pay one man that amount of money, then in the present circumstances all Grants to the FAI should be stopped and given to a more deserving cause.
PaddyJoe
06-07-2012, 01:01 PM
Interesting comparison:
FAI chief John Delaney earns €250,000 more than the soccer chiefs in Euro 2012 championship winners Spain and the runners-up Italy, it has emerged.
Angel Maria Villar, who is Spain’s football boss, earns €152,000 a year and the FA boss in Italy , Antonello Valentini is on a salary of €150,000, the Irish Daily Star reports today.
Combined their annual salaries come to €302,000 – that’s €98,000 less than Mr Delaney (44) who earns €400,000 a year.
http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/league-of-ireland/fai-chief-earns-250k-more-than-spain-and-italy-rivals-3160384.html
Stanley 2
06-07-2012, 01:20 PM
Delaney claims he left a high paid job when he took over in 2005, anyone know what it was, he used to be the volunteer Treasurer to FAI before he and others shafted then CEO, Fran Rooney, who was highly paid at Baltimore an experienced businessman.
Delaney got the board to double the wages and now on 430k + expenses + travel allowances, very nice, what is he qualified as and what real experience has he.
Top German guy is on 300k but like Itl and Spa guys they run real professional leagues on a scale of 10/20 times of what Delaney does, is Delaney a dictator his latest upgraded contract runs to 2015, IRFU guy, Browne, runs a bigger org on way less money
Slim Buddha
06-07-2012, 01:25 PM
Delaney claims he left a high paid job when he took over in 2005, anyone know what it was, he used to be the volunteer Treasurer to FAI before he and others shafted then CEO, Fran Rooney, who was highly paid at Baltimore an experienced businessman.
Delaney got the board to double the wages and now on 430k + expenses + travel allowances, very nice, what is he qualified as and what real experience has he.
Top German guy is on 300k but like Itl and Spa guys they run real professional leagues on a scale of 10/20 times of what Delaney does, is Delaney a dictator his latest upgraded contract runs to 2015, IRFU guy, Browne, runs a bigger org on way less money
I believe Delaney is some class of an accountant and worked for some cash and carry outfit before landing his current hobby job.
The German organisation (DFB) is huge and run on really professional lines. It also ensures that the finances of German football clubs are properly managed with the result that games are affordable for the average fan, unlike some cases in England.
Coaching is a central part of the DFB's remit and a lot of money goes into this.
Stanley 2
06-07-2012, 02:02 PM
I believe Delaney is some class of an accountant and worked for some cash and carry outfit before landing his current hobby job.
The German organisation (DFB) is huge and run on really professional lines. It also ensures that the finances of German football clubs are properly managed with the result that games are affordable for the average fan, unlike some cases in England.
Coaching is a central part of the DFB's remit and a lot of money goes into this.
The Finance Director at Musgraves would be on about 200k and probably have 20 accountants underneath him, think Delaney might be spoofing a little, he does seem to be from the FFer cute hoor camp.
FAI should subcontract their Aviva end to IRFU and stick Delaney on a reality 40k per annum.
FAI job does look ideal material for Bertie but instead of a salary put him on performance only related pay.
fluffybiscuits
06-07-2012, 02:32 PM
The fans and clubs should rebel, go on strike. Delaney's ridiculous wage is coming from the same pot that whatever limited funds that go into Irish football come from. He's literally taking the bite from the mouths of clubs that say they're starved for funding.
It's like the political scene, people get this kind of crap because they're willing to tolerate it.
Fans out drinking with him in Poland when they should be kicking his arse instead.
+1 and lets be honest and put it into context. There is Monaghan Utd whom have just gone to the wall and now apparently one other club (forget who)
http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/monaghan-united-to-withdraw-from-airtricity-league-555767.html
The money is not being spent properly. We have to ensure the future of Irish football. 400k a year is ridiculous....
Stanley 2
06-07-2012, 09:02 PM
Two World Cups and Two European titles between them since 2006 but the two guys running these football associations are earning a combined figure which is almost €100,000 short of John Delaney's monster pay packet!!!
Quite, quite extraordinary. Bollocks to austerity, eh, John?
http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/league-of-ireland/fai-chief-earns-250k-more-than-spain-and-italy-rivals-3160384.html
Sure is an avalanche of anti JD comments in the Indo below the article but his contract runs to 2015, he will just keep his head down and avoid the Press, someone from outside the FAI has to push this and a good start would be the 4m Sports Council grant.
Ah Well
06-07-2012, 10:43 PM
+1 and lets be honest and put it into context. There is Monaghan Utd whom have just gone to the wall and now apparently one other club (forget who)
That would prob be Dundalk, who are in serious financial difficulty ... period of 2-3 weeks being bandied about the place it seems
http://www.goal.com/en-ie/news/3942/ireland/2012/06/29/3208287/dundalk-issue-renewed-plea-for-financial-support-as-difficulties-
Ireland has an incredibly high tolerance for BS. If we could bottle and export BS, we could bail out the entire Eurozone.
This is a good point. Told today in work by 2 smart arses after I said I thought Ulsterbank should be closed due to its sheer stupidity in response to a question on what I thought about them, that don't be stupid a bank is not a business it's a financial institution and 'savings and investments would be lost' before the same two stupid bitches laughed to themselves, one of whom should know better as she has a degree in business so she must have passed an economics exam at some stage(god knows how) and the other who is a typical know all. An English literature student who spends her whole day correcting mine and other people's English, slagging off those who don't limit themselves to wishing they were more English, and when something that she knows nothing about comes up she and the other genius dabble in the usual BS that banks 'must be bailed out'.
Bullsh1te prevails at all levels of Irish society. Wading through it requires a big stick and a safety raft to get to better waters asap.
If the FAI can affort to pay one man that amount of money, then in the present circumstances all Grants to the FAI should be stopped and given to a more deserving cause.
Yeah you fcukers can talk. what more deserving cause? The banks? Another spin doctoring Harvard student for Enda?
Sam Lord
07-07-2012, 12:16 AM
Yeah you fcukers can talk. what more deserving cause? The banks? Another spin doctoring Harvard student for Enda?
You on the gargle Apjp? A tad aggressive there ... no?
You on the gargle Apjp? A tad aggressive there ... no?
No. Haven't drank in a few weeks actually..;) Well to be fair if anyone deserves agression its a thick headed FG supporter. FG supporters are hypocrites when they lecture others on how to spend money. Besides we all know what causes they consider 'deserving' of public money. Just like 12 arses O'Reilly earlier in the week saying he'll punish restaurants who don't get some new calory count up cos he needs to tackle obesity in Ireland. I'm happy to be as aggresive to those chancers as possible.
Sam Lord
07-07-2012, 12:42 AM
No. Haven't drank in a few weeks actually..;) Well to be fair if anyone deserves agression its a thick headed FG supporter. FG supporters are hypocrites when they lecture others on how to spend money. Besides we all know what causes they consider 'deserving' of public money. Just like 12 arses O'Reilly earlier in the week saying he'll punish restaurants who don't get some new calory count up cos he needs to tackle obesity in Ireland. I'm happy to be as aggresive to those chancers as possible.
The issue is: does Delaney deserve to be paid 400,000 euros a year.
I can't believe you think so.
Nightflight
07-07-2012, 01:51 AM
The issue is: does Delaney deserve to be paid 400,000 euros a year.
I can't believe you think so.
I'm very glad you put it as "does [he] deserve to be paid", because it sure isn't "earned".
IMHO €40,000 would still be too much of a pay-out.
PaddyJoe
07-07-2012, 02:08 AM
I'm not convinced that having Denis O'Brien funding the Irish manager's salary is a good idea either.
O'Brien added: “He was worth every penny,” in the wake of Ireland's disappointing Euro 2012 campaign where they lost all three group games.
The FAI have confirmed that O'Brien has agreed to provide support in financing the Ireland manager's two-year contract extension, estimated to be €1.5m, with the entrepreneur's contribution thought to be in the region of 50 per cent.
O'Brien said of the appointment of Trapattoni in 2008 that he was "a great believer if you hire the right people you get the right results." He told the Bloomberg news agency yesterday that who the FAI appointed as national manager was up to the governing body of Irish football and not him.
http://www.goal.com/en-ie/news/3942/ireland/2012/06/22/3192435/he-was-worth-every-penny-businessman-denis-obrien-praises
musashi
07-07-2012, 03:08 AM
Two World Cups and Two European titles between them since 2006 but the two guys running these football associations are earning a combined figure which is almost €100,000 short of John Delaney's monster pay packet!!!
Quite, quite extraordinary...?
http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/league-of-ireland/fai-chief-earns-250k-more-than-spain-and-italy-rivals-3160384.html
Quite, slim. I had no idea the FAI was so flush-gosh what a lucky fella that Delaney is.
The issue is: does Delaney deserve to be paid 400,000 euros a year.
I can't believe you think so.
Of course I don't. Just think its rich that someone in FG thinks they can comment on it without seeming a hypocrite. Not sure why someone like delaney exists tbh. What does he even do? Get drunk with the fans seems all.
Shaadi
07-07-2012, 09:31 AM
I had no idea the FAI was so flush-gosh what a lucky fella that Delaney is.As the saying goes, you make your own luck.
homer
07-07-2012, 12:49 PM
JD is paid too much. If it is mainly financed by a state grant, the state should have some say about this.
Surprised that the like of Pat Kenny and Joe Duffy have not been critical of this - I know they get more but they are really really really worth it, or so they say.
Slim Buddha
07-07-2012, 08:33 PM
JD is paid too much. If it is mainly financed by a state grant, the state should have some say about this.
Surprised that the like of Pat Kenny and Joe Duffy have not been critical of this - I know they get more but they are really really really worth it, or so they say.
Kenny, Duffy, Delaney and God knows how many others...............suckling on the teat of the taxpayer and their overweaning sense of entitlement is indeed profound.
C. Flower
07-07-2012, 08:50 PM
I keep misreading this as "John Delaney's Extraordinary Rendition" :D
PaddyJoe
07-07-2012, 08:56 PM
I keep misreading this as "John Delaney's Extraordinary Rendition" :D
Given his exploits in Poland getting him on the plane home probably resembled an extraordinary rendition:)
fluffybiscuits
08-07-2012, 10:03 PM
That would prob be Dundalk, who are in serious financial difficulty ... period of 2-3 weeks being bandied about the place it seems
http://www.goal.com/en-ie/news/3942/ireland/2012/06/29/3208287/dundalk-issue-renewed-plea-for-financial-support-as-difficulties-
Thanks for that Ah Well, seems they are going to be going down the same route as Monaghan. I always advocated that we should have slapped preservation orders on the clubs and that may stop them going out of buisiness. Claim they are part of our hertiage. When its put in the context of the obscene amount of money that John Delaney is earning its all the more shameful. The FAI and others in league of Ireland should hang their heads in shame.Cobh, Kilkenny, Dublin City, Kildare Town all now going to the wall. Sack Delaney for this incompetence in letting the clubs go to the wall.
http://www.fai.ie/fai/licensing.html
This must be redundant now with the way things are going...
Ah Well
08-07-2012, 10:06 PM
Thanks for that Ah Well, seems they are going to be going down the same route as Monaghan. I always advocated that we should have slapped preservation orders on the clubs and that may stop them going out of buisiness. Claim they are part of our hertiage. When its put in the context of the obscene amount of money that John Delaney is earning its all the more shameful. The FAI and others in league of Ireland should hang their heads in shame.Cobh, Kilkenny, Dublin City, Kildare Town all now going to the wall. Sack Delaney for this incompetence in letting the clubs go to the wall.
http://www.fai.ie/fai/licensing.html
This must be redundant now with the way things are going...
The Licensing system is a joke, and in the manner in which it is implemented. There are meant to be basic standards for grounds and then you see the likes of Jackman Park (Limerick) and Fahy's Field (Mervue)
Slim Buddha
21-08-2012, 06:49 AM
"Take pay cut or face job losses"
http://www.independent.ie/national-news/john-delaney-tells-fai-staff-take-pay-cut-or-face-job-losses-3206709.html
says the man who gets paid more than his Spanish (European Chamnpions 2008 and 2012, World Champions 2010) and Italian (World Champions 2006, European Runners-Up 2012) counterparts combined.
Only in Ireland!
Stanley 2
21-08-2012, 09:29 AM
Delaney is seeking to bully all FAI emploees into a deal as he does not wish to attend LRC which may comment on his style of management and salary, also does not want a war of words with SIPTU.
Govt provide annual grants to FAI, time for them to insist on salary reduction on Delaney to approx 90/100k, he was an accountant in a cash n carry and would barely get that amount now, anytime Delaney wants to test the job market, let him go ahead.
He runs the FAI like a dictatorship, very few would dare go against him, he has all the votes in his pocket.
IRFU also need to do something as the FAI/Delaney aint going to come up with their end of package on LR.
Slim Buddha
21-08-2012, 10:34 AM
Delaney is seeking to bully all FAI emploees into a deal as he does not wish to attend LRC which may comment on his style of management and salary, also does not want a war of words with SIPTU.
Govt provide annual grants to FAI, time for them to insist on salary reduction on Delaney to approx 90/100k, he was an accountant in a cash n carry and would barely get that amount now, anytime Delaney wants to test the job market, let him go ahead.
He runs the FAI like a dictatorship, very few would dare go against him, he has all the votes in his pocket.
IRFU also need to do something as the FAI/Delaney aint going to come up with their end of package on LR.
FAI are €64 mio. in debt so this must worry the IRFU. Delaney's counterparts in Spain and Italy can point to 6 years of success in international football but he can't even pay the manager of the Irish team out of FAI funds. And one must question his judgement in extending Trappatoni's contract before the Euro 2012 championship took place.
C. Flower
21-08-2012, 11:59 AM
Delaney is seeking to bully all FAI emploees into a deal as he does not wish to attend LRC which may comment on his style of management and salary, also does not want a war of words with SIPTU.
Govt provide annual grants to FAI, time for them to insist on salary reduction on Delaney to approx 90/100k, he was an accountant in a cash n carry and would barely get that amount now, anytime Delaney wants to test the job market, let him go ahead.
He runs the FAI like a dictatorship, very few would dare go against him, he has all the votes in his pocket.
IRFU also need to do something as the FAI/Delaney aint going to come up with their end of package on LR.
Is the Aviva at risk? I'd hate to see it mothballed.
One of the few good things to come out of the boom.
Can't see, under present circumstances, why anyone would need more than 90,000 a year.
It is enough to buy two houses, cash.
culmore
21-08-2012, 02:16 PM
The Aviva is safe the Rugby boys have plenty of money, not touched be recession
Sam Lord
21-08-2012, 02:33 PM
This is really a national scandal.
fluffybiscuits
21-08-2012, 03:40 PM
Delaney is seeking to bully all FAI emploees into a deal as he does not wish to attend LRC which may comment on his style of management and salary, also does not want a war of words with SIPTU.
Govt provide annual grants to FAI, time for them to insist on salary reduction on Delaney to approx 90/100k, he was an accountant in a cash n carry and would barely get that amount now, anytime Delaney wants to test the job market, let him go ahead.
He runs the FAI like a dictatorship, very few would dare go against him, he has all the votes in his pocket.
IRFU also need to do something as the FAI/Delaney aint going to come up with their end of package on LR.
And the LRC can issue binding recommendations cant they? He wont like that, being told what to do :)
Stanley 2
21-08-2012, 07:55 PM
And the LRC can issue binding recommendations cant they? He wont like that, being told what to do :)
Delaney trying to force the staff to sign up on Fri 24th and the LRC is on the 27th, slimeball, SIPTU should be well onto his ways.
Delaney says he has had other offers but they are only known to himself.
Slim Buddha
22-08-2012, 04:38 AM
Delaney trying to force the staff to sign up on Fri 24th and the LRC is on the 27th, slimeball, SIPTU should be well onto his ways.
Delaney says he has had other offers but they are only known to himself.
Was there some rumour doing the rounds about Delaney leaving the FAI and going to a job in the Olympic set-up?
After all, we may not qualify for the World cup in Brazil but we will definitely have an athlete or two in Rio. Which could be a huge attraction for him.
Stanley 2
22-08-2012, 10:46 AM
Read where the present head of IOC does not take a salary, only expenses, this would not suit Delaney, who would want both + bonus/pension.............
Delaney was at the Olympics in London, saw him at the boxing, was probably on the plss with Bertie chatting about what might have been with th Bowl etc.,... you can easily imagine this pair sinking a few for Irl on the FAI's bill.
Slim Buddha
22-08-2012, 11:18 AM
Read where the present head of IOC does not take a salary, only expenses, this would not suit Delaney, who would want both + bonus/pension.............
Delaney was at the Olympics in London, saw him at the boxing, was probably on the plss with Bertie chatting about what might have been with th Bowl etc.,... you can easily imagine this pair sinking a few for Irl on the FAI's bill.
All too well,
" Ah, jaysus, John, yer twistin' me arm but, shure, g'wan, mine's a Bass!"
fluffybiscuits
22-08-2012, 10:55 PM
Delaney trying to force the staff to sign up on Fri 24th and the LRC is on the 27th, slimeball, SIPTU should be well onto his ways.
Delaney says he has had other offers but they are only known to himself.
Does the man have no boundaries at all? Think Delaney is involved with the Olympic council here already...
Thought he may be in contention to succeed Hickey according to the IT
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2012/0727/1224320886420.html
OLYMPIC GAMES: FAI CHIEF executive John Delaney is is contention to take over as president of the Olympic Council of Ireland (OCI) after Pat Hickey stated his intention to step down from the position following his elevation to the executive board of the International Olympic Committee (IOC) yesterday.
Slim Buddha
23-08-2012, 05:04 AM
It is a very Irish concept
Insiders Failing Upwards
Stanley 2
23-08-2012, 11:36 AM
Does the man have no boundaries at all? Think Delaney is involved with the Olympic council here already...
Thought he may be in contention to succeed Hickey according to the IT
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2012/0727/1224320886420.html
Reading the article Hickey almost says it is in his gift to appoint the next Irish Pres and this suits Delaney's dictatorial style, with his FAI number and stacks of expenses to be had from IOC, anyone doubt he would be an FFer in an election.
culmore
23-08-2012, 12:46 PM
He would be Minister if FF ever return to power.
fluffybiscuits
23-08-2012, 12:52 PM
He would be Minister if FF ever return to power.
Delaney? lol
Maximus
28-08-2012, 09:04 PM
Delaney is just one example of overpaid people in this ridiculous country.
Look at the pay of the Taoiseach? He's paid more than the US president who governs over a population close to 300 million and is practically world leader whereas Enda Kenny is leader of a small island, population of 4 millon.
Look at the pay of RTE stars. Pat Kenny earning €600,000 a year. Far more than presenters of major networks in the US that have major sponsorship deals to support high wages.
And look at our city/county managers. The Leitrim County manager is paid some €120,000 a year or more. And she is in charge of a county with a population of 30,000 and gets paid better than some European heads of state!
The whole system is over-inflated. That's the reason we're in the current economic mess we're in. We partied hard, so hard in the Celtic Tiger yet the heavy comedown is being ignored and ridiculous pay like that of Delaney continues doesn't solve anything or change attitudes.
fluffybiscuits
29-08-2012, 04:09 PM
Delaney is just one example of overpaid people in this ridiculous country.
Look at the pay of the Taoiseach? He's paid more than the US president who governs over a population close to 300 million and is practically world leader whereas Enda Kenny is leader of a small island, population of 4 millon.
Look at the pay of RTE stars. Pat Kenny earning €600,000 a year. Far more than presenters of major networks in the US that have major sponsorship deals to support high wages.
And look at our city/county managers. The Leitrim County manager is paid some €120,000 a year or more. And she is in charge of a county with a population of 30,000 and gets paid better than some European heads of state!
The whole system is over-inflated. That's the reason we're in the current economic mess we're in. We partied hard, so hard in the Celtic Tiger yet the heavy comedown is being ignored and ridiculous pay like that of Delaney continues doesn't solve anything or change attitudes.
When you contrast Delaneys salary to that of the League of Ireland clubs going bust and the lack of finances for some smaller teams its a ridiculous salary. Even some of the chairmen of the other FA's in Europe dont get as much as he does. Like for like in terms of the economy, Delaney should do the honourable thing and step down from his position in the FAI. He has done some good work but time is now for someone on a smaller salary to take up the reins of the job.
Stanley 2
29-08-2012, 05:18 PM
When you contrast Delaneys salary to that of the League of Ireland clubs going bust and the lack of finances for some smaller teams its a ridiculous salary. Even some of the chairmen of the other FA's in Europe dont get as much as he does. Like for like in terms of the economy, Delaney should do the honourable thing and step down from his position in the FAI. He has done some good work but time is now for someone on a smaller salary to take up the reins of the job.
Delaney has set himself up in an impregnable position at the FAI, he has the votes in his pocket for donkey years to come, the Govt/Sports Council should challenge why their annual Grants end up paying his salary package and expenses, simples.
Other sport bodies should object to this greedy man's package, the 10% cut on the employees of the FAI has a far heavier affect than dropping this lad to a basic, basic 360k.
fluffybiscuits
30-08-2012, 11:23 AM
Delaney has set himself up in an impregnable position at the FAI, he has the votes in his pocket for donkey years to come, the Govt/Sports Council should challenge why their annual Grants end up paying his salary package and expenses, simples.
Other sport bodies should object to this greedy man's package, the 10% cut on the employees of the FAI has a far heavier affect than dropping this lad to a basic, basic 360k.
The grants should go directly to sport and organisations should be encouraged to become self sufficient. If we look at the GAA they have a good accounting system and were able to plan for the year (http://www.gaa.ie/gaa-news-and-videos/daily-news/1/0703121517-gaa-annual-accounts-2011-published/) , the same could be learnt from the FAI and any profits funnelled back into the game. As a gesture of good will I would ask Delaney to donate some funds to clubs who are experiencing difficulties in at least ensuring that players can continue on playing and clubs operating . The man would then go up in my estimation.
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