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fluffybiscuits
05-06-2012, 12:06 AM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/jun/04/jubilee-pageant-unemployed

Unemployed people working unpaid for three days of work and told to sleep under a bridge!? What sort of country is it they are living in?


Close Protection UK confirmed that it was using up to 30 unpaid staff and 50 apprentices, who were paid 2.80 an hour, for the three-day event in London. A spokesman said the unpaid work was a trial for paid roles at the Olympics, which it had also won a contract to staff. Unpaid staff were expected to work two days out of the three-day holiday.

DCon
05-06-2012, 06:48 AM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/jun/04/jubilee-pageant-unemployed

Unemployed people working unpaid for three days of work and told to sleep under a bridge!? What sort of country is it they are living in?

Don't be giving Joan ideas!

Kitty O'Shea
05-06-2012, 10:14 AM
It is unbelievable that the company was permitted to put the safety of those people at risk without any thought what so ever. The apparent sweetener is they each received a cert in managing people at events or something.
Not only that, but those people's complaints won't be followed up.

fluffybiscuits
05-06-2012, 02:21 PM
Don't be giving Joan ideas!

People working for slave wages. She would have been best friends with King Leopold of Belgium in a previous existence...:D


It is unbelievable that the company was permitted to put the safety of those people at risk without any thought what so ever. The apparent sweetener is they each received a cert in managing people at events or something.
Not only that, but those people's complaints won't be followed up.

Well I can tell you straight out if this was Ireland they would be in breach of a few laws. Firstly lack of sanitary facilities, no proper accommodation and other things. This is the beginning of captialism exploiting others for their monetary gain while people are unemployed. If I were those people I would get a gang of them together and intentionally throw everything into the canal they had to do. Screw the royals and their pomposity....

WhistleblowerIRL
05-06-2012, 02:35 PM
D I S G U S T I N G ! ! !

But undoubtedly inspirational to our own 'Dear Leaders'.

DCon
05-06-2012, 02:38 PM
D I S G U S T I N G ! ! !

But undoubtedly inspirational to our own 'Dear Leaders'.

If they could appoint Denis O'Brien High King of Ireland, I have no doubt that they would. As long as they got to live in his Royal Court

WhistleblowerIRL
05-06-2012, 02:56 PM
If they could appoint Denis O'Brien High King of Ireland, I have no doubt that they would. As long as they got to live in his Royal Court

I thought this has happened already :rolleyes: Our own versions of Pravda - The 'free' Irish press are busy working the special inauguration supplement. Bertie will head the Irish Order of the Garter...

"A modern vibrant nation" - PM Cameron just told BBC World about good old blighty. Slaves existing under bridges without access to toilets is obviously his Orwellian idea of modern.

fluffybiscuits
05-06-2012, 03:00 PM
I thought this has happened already :rolleyes: Our own versions of Pravda - The 'free' Irish press are busy working the special inauguration supplement. Bertie will head the Irish Order of the Garter...

"A modern vibrant nation" - PM Cameron just told BBC World about good old blighty. Slaves existing under bridges without access to toilets is obviously his Orwellian idea of modern.

Its a clear breach of HSE Law in the UK

http://www.hse.gov.uk/simple-health-safety/workplace.htm

DCon
05-06-2012, 03:02 PM
Its a clear breach of HSE Law in the UK

http://www.hse.gov.uk/simple-health-safety/workplace.htm




http://www.hse.gov.uk/assets/images/homepage/jubilee.jpg


Don't let jobworths jeopardise celebrations


Minister for Employment Chris Grayling said:

"Hang up the bunting and challenge anyone who says otherwise. Too often we hear stories of jobsworths out to spoil everyone's fun especially at big occasions like the Queen's Diamond Jubilee all in the name of so called health and safety.

"There is nothing in Health and Safety law to stop you celebrating in June. If you think someone is wrongfully using health and safety you can seek advice from the Myth Busters Challenge Panel."

HSE Chair Judith Hackitt added:

"The Diamond Jubilee is going to be a huge celebration. We want to ensure that the hours of planning and preparation lead to successful and enjoyable events. Health and safety law does not to apply to local events organised by community volunteers and a few sensible precautions to deal with any potential minor incidents are all that is required. We are encouraging people to challenge decisions when they think health and safety is being used as an excuse and the Panel is ready to help."



love this!

Andrew49
05-06-2012, 07:22 PM
PRINCE Philip is "getting better" after he was admitted to hospital with a bladder infection, his youngest son Prince Edward said after visiting him. The outspoken 90-year-old missed the end of the Diamond Jubilee celebrations marking his wife's 60th year on the throne but has followed them from hospital on television, Edward said after visiting his father overnight.

Edward said as he got into his car outside the King Edward VII Hospital in London:
"He's getting better, he just needs some rest,"

Can I suggest his bed be taken to London Bridge.

Andrew49
05-06-2012, 07:34 PM
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c135/theknitter/spongers1978.png

In 1978 Jim Allen’s play, The Spongers, was broadcast on the BBc in its Play for Today slot. Set in the run-up to the 1977 Silver Jubilee, Allen, in the opening scene, summed up what is wrong with this country as the title of the play is superimposed over upside down cardboard cut-outs of the Queen and Prince Philip. In the play a single mother Pauline, (a stunning performance by the late Christine Hargreaves) is shown sinking as she faces rent arrears, debt and a Council that is cutting the vital services she needs for her daughter, whilst the only medicine on offer is the opium of yet another royal pageant. Jimmy McGovern has described this as the best television play ever broadcast. LINK (http://lipsticksocialist.wordpress.com/)

More Here (http://www.screenonline.org.uk/tv/id/557920/index.html)

The 1977 silver jubilee - which I remember - also had a very dark side as the above play showed. Unsurprisingly it echoes today's world.

This was the badge to wear:
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c135/theknitter/stuffthejubilee.jpg

Design: Sherri Yanowitz Rogall & Neil McFarlane

HWO (http://www.historyworkshop.org.uk/radical-object-stuff-the-jubilee-badge/)

Cynacist
05-06-2012, 07:41 PM
Clearly this is a disgrace and no surprise for those of us who believe in "closed shop" employment. Will be more surprised if there are not repercussions for Close Protection and a good pay-day for the volunteers to come.
Appears a bit of anti-Brit opportunism rather than much substance to make a thread out of this. Wait a few days and see what fall-out there is for Close Protection and then if none the thread may have some credenced.

Andrew49
05-06-2012, 07:49 PM
It's a lot more than an uncomfortable night under a bridge:

They had to change into security gear in public They could not access a toilet for 24 hours and then were taken to a swamp-like campsite outside London after working a 14-hour shift in the rain on Sunday, marshalling crowds who had turned up to watch the river pageant. The apprentice workers were paid 2.80 an hour while those on the work programme were unpaid.

yehbut_nobut
05-06-2012, 09:48 PM
It's been kept in the spotlight, thankfully. (even if it is by John Prescott)


Call for inquiry into use of unpaid jobseekers as jubilee stewards

The former deputy prime minister Lord Prescott has written to the home secretary to complain about a security firm that used unpaid jobseekers to steward the Queen's diamond jubilee celebrations in London.

He said he was "deeply concerned" by the revelations, published in the Guardian on Tuesday, that up to 30 unpaid jobseekers on the government's work programme were asked to sleep under London Bridge before the river pageant on Sunday.

He is calling for Theresa May to investigate whether the company has broken the security industry's own employment standards and is urging the government to review the company's contract for the Olympics.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/jun/05/call-inquiry-jobseekers-jubilee-stewards

DCon
05-06-2012, 09:52 PM
It's a lot more than an uncomfortable night under a bridge:

They had to change into security gear in public They could not access a toilet for 24 hours and then were taken to a swamp-like campsite outside London after working a 14-hour shift in the rain on Sunday, marshalling crowds who had turned up to watch the river pageant. The apprentice workers were paid 2.80 an hour while those on the work programme were unpaid.

From the above link


Health and safety law does not to apply to local events organised by community volunteers

Slim Buddha
06-06-2012, 02:49 AM
It's been kept in the spotlight, thankfully. (even if it is by John Prescott)



http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/jun/05/call-inquiry-jobseekers-jubilee-stewards

At least Prescott is being vocal about it. Where are the current Labour leadership?? Too busy enjoying the events to be bothered??

Andrew49
06-06-2012, 08:38 AM
From the above link


Health and safety law does not to apply to local events organised by community volunteers


The workers weren't local, nor was the event. They were bussed in to London from Bristol, Bath and Plymouth and forced to sleep out in the cold overnight before stewarding a major event with no payment.

Saoirse go Deo
06-06-2012, 12:38 PM
http://www.anphoblacht.com/contents/21937

Cynacist
06-06-2012, 02:25 PM
The real story here is the exploitation of workers under a "volunteer scheme" which claims to give experience and skills to the unemployed. The link to the jubilee is only relevant in that this disgraceful episode would never have come to light except that it exposed the other side of a celebration.
Work / volunteer placements and employment grants have been a benefit to employers but rarely the unemployed.

fluffybiscuits
13-06-2012, 10:00 PM
From the above link

It does apply however to people whom are under the control of an employer. An employer in Ireland (and certainly the UK) has a duty of care to other people other than his employees and this would apply to volunteers. Besides they getting their benefits is linked to doing the work so essentially they didnt volunteer, their hands were forced. No one volunteers to help out at an event like that and be told they are sleeping under bridges.