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Andrew49
18-04-2012, 04:31 PM
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c135/theknitter/jenky_320x480.jpg
Bishop Daniel R. Jenky of the Catholic diocese of Peoria, Illinois, likened President Obama to Adolf Hilter and Joseph Stalin, along with past French Prime Minister Georges Clemenceau and German chancellor Otto von Bismarck, on Sunday while condemning Obama’s “radical, pro-abortion and extreme secularist agenda.” He said that Catholics in America are in a “war” as a result of the administration’s mandate for religiously-based institutions to cover contraceptives, and compared politicians who back the mandate to Judas Iscariot.
SOURCE (http://www.secularnewsdaily.com/2012/04/17/bishop-compares-obama-to-hitler-and-stalin/)
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About Jenky:
Daniel R. Jenky, bishop of the Peoria, Illinois diocese
Thomas Szydlik, diocese of Peoria, Illinois
Steve Gonzales. "Suit claims Catholic priest impregnated parishioner then coerced her into abortion." St. Clair Record (April 3, 2008).
Steve Gonzalez. "Bishop, Peoria Diocese seek dismissal from priest sex abuse suit." The Madison St. Clair Record (June 23, 2008).
"Centennial Mass in Dallas City Saturday." Catholic Post (October 19, 2008).
Bishop Daniel R. Jenky, CSC, will . . . join Sacred Heart parishioners on Saturday, Oct. 25, to celebrate their 100th anniversary. Concelebrants for the 4 p.m. Mass include Father Trosley and Father Thomas Szydlik, parochial vicar.
Terry Bibo. "Groups ask Diocese to stop priest's Mass: The Rev. Szydlik, accused of sexual assault, will lead worship at church's anniversary." PJ Star.com (October 24, 2008).
Diocesan chancellor and attorney Patricia Gibson issued the following statement: "The case involving Father Thomas Szydlik and Holly Force involved consenting adults and is not a case involving sexual abuse of a child."
Amelia Flood. "Couple's suit against Peoria Roman Catholic priest to be heard Oct. 22 ." Madison St. Clair Record (October 11, 2010).
The couple claims that while they lived in Peoria from 2000 to 2006, Szydlik, a Catholic priest, counseled Holly Force about martial issues, eventually using that relationship to instigate a romantic relationship. … In addition to Jenky, the Forces are suing Monsignor Paul Showalter, Rev. Larry Zurek, Monsignor William Watson and Patricia Gibson as well
(3/10/2011) - The couple settled the suit against Dioceses of Peoria and priest; Affair resulted in pregnancy and coerced abortion - no other details.
Coincidentally I have a photo of Jenky and Showalter with Ratzinger:
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c135/theknitter/drjb16Showalter_320x480.jpg
fluffybiscuits
18-04-2012, 04:33 PM
Supreme frock wearer meets two minor frock wearers. Catholics under attack? They were the architects of their own downfall. A support for abortion in no way is an equivelant of an attack on Catholicism. They are adding two and two and getting five...
disability student
18-04-2012, 04:38 PM
Knew few gay friends who love to talk endlessly about the Cardinal dresses/biretta and their feminine nature. I tried to recall any cardinal who was of manly nature but could not.
Knew one Catholic bishop, who still lives in Birmingham whom he acts more like feminine and one gay guy that i knew said that bishop's gay for starters.
fluffybiscuits
18-04-2012, 04:41 PM
Knew few gay friends who love to talk endlessly about the Cardinal dresses/biretta and their feminine nature. I tried to recall any cardinal who was of manly nature but could not.
Knew one Catholic bishop, who still lives in Birmingham whom he acts more like feminine and one gay guy that i knew said that bishop's gay for starters.
I know four guys who were in the seminary in Maynooth who left because they were gay. They said that the seminary is full of closeted lads who go there in the hope that sky fairyism will provide a cure for them somehow....
Andrew49
18-04-2012, 04:50 PM
The pope in both pictures .. is he a pose-able waxwork dummy? And, for the year that's in it, could it be transported here for the EEK-a-christie knees-up? Would be a great little money earner for photographs and such ,,,,, don't ask what I mean by 'such' as lots of things are floating through my opened mind ... inviting and inciting me.....
disability student
18-04-2012, 05:30 PM
I know four guys who were in the seminary in Maynooth who left because they were gay. They said that the seminary is full of closeted lads who go there in the hope that sky fairyism will provide a cure for them somehow....
So much for cover ups as i recall re one poster who left the priesthood in another forum. He mentioned a ex Monsignor Ledwith, who was with the seminarians at that time. Eventually he was removed and he is now practising new age in the states.
Four guys that u knew merely confirms what we know about the vatican visitation re Maynooth is all crap nothing more or less.:eek:
riposte
18-04-2012, 05:45 PM
All you guys are water-sliding straight into hell.:)
C. Flower
18-04-2012, 06:49 PM
Is this likely to affect Obama's vote significantly?
Holly
18-04-2012, 09:53 PM
Those American bishops get good dinners.
fluffybiscuits
19-04-2012, 03:21 PM
So much for cover ups as i recall re one poster who left the priesthood in another forum. He mentioned a ex Monsignor Ledwith, who was with the seminarians at that time. Eventually he was removed and he is now practising new age in the states.
Four guys that u knew merely confirms what we know about the vatican visitation re Maynooth is all crap nothing more or less.:eek:
Cover ups ! Some of the lads were the worlds worst kept secret ;)
All you guys are water-sliding straight into hell.:)
Have you woken up after drinking a whole bottle of Captain Morgans with Coke? I didnt water slide into that....
homer
19-04-2012, 03:46 PM
What did Clemenceau and von Bismarck do wrong.?
I undertand that apart from uniting the fragmented German mini-state, duchies etc that he brought in a state health system
Captain Con O'Sullivan
19-04-2012, 04:00 PM
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Bishop Daniel R. Jenky of the Catholic diocese of Peoria, Illinois, likened President Obama to Adolf Hilter and Joseph Stalin, along with past French Prime Minister Georges Clemenceau and German chancellor Otto von Bismarck, on Sunday while condemning Obama’s “radical, pro-abortion and extreme secularist agenda.” He said that Catholics in America are in a “war” as a result of the administration’s mandate for religiously-based institutions to cover contraceptives, and compared politicians who back the mandate to Judas Iscariot.
SOURCE (http://www.secularnewsdaily.com/2012/04/17/bishop-compares-obama-to-hitler-and-stalin/)
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About Jenky:
(3/10/2011) - The couple settled the suit against Dioceses of Peoria and priest; Affair resulted in pregnancy and coerced abortion - no other details.
Coincidentally I have a photo of Jenky and Showalter with Ratzinger:
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c135/theknitter/drjb16Showalter_320x480.jpg
Eh- so basically the bishop is saying that Obama reminds him of Hitler (catholic), Stalin (jesuit seminarian), Clemenceau (catholic, I think) and Bismarck (nice helmet but no idea of the jesusbrand).
I see the malnutrition outbreak has yet to reach the American diocesan community.
fluffybiscuits
19-04-2012, 04:10 PM
Eh- so basically the bishop is saying that Obama reminds him of Hitler (catholic), Stalin (jesuit seminarian), Clemenceau (catholic, I think) and Bismarck (nice helmet but no idea of the jesusbrand).
I see the malnutrition outbreak has yet to reach the American diocesan community.
lol I forgot about that completely :D
disability student
19-04-2012, 04:16 PM
It's frightening to see ex Catholics such as Hitler and Stalin were mass murderers in their own country although Hitler was born in Vienna & Stalin in Georgia- both countries were taken over by Germany and USSR respectively.
It was interesting to see two above mentioned people have one thing in common .. both fathers beat them up when they were young.
Captain Con O'Sullivan
19-04-2012, 04:27 PM
Most catholics have no idea that Hitler was a catholic from a staunch catholic family and hate it when it is pointed out. He even painted pictures of the madonna and child and a crucifix in the mountains,,,
Goering pointed out that Hitler was a catholic at the Nuremberg trials. Stalin was bought out of a tsarist jail by the jesuits for some reason.
Stern catholics go absolutely potty when you point this out because they are carefully trained away from those facts and towards them being arch-atheists. Stalin just replaced religion with his personality cult and Hitler was hugely religious in his revival tent oratory. Cathedrals of light at the rallies ... all very masslike.
fluffybiscuits
19-04-2012, 04:31 PM
Most catholics have no idea that Hitler was a catholic from a staunch catholic family and hate it when it is pointed out. He even painted pictures of the madonna and child and a crucifix in the mountains,,,
Goering pointed out that Hitler was a catholic at the Nuremberg trials. Stalin was bought out of a tsarist jail by the jesuits for some reason.
Stern catholics go absolutely potty when you point this out because they are carefully trained away from those facts and towards them being arch-atheists. Stalin just replaced religion with his personality cult and Hitler was hugely religious in his revival tent oratory. Cathedrals of light at the rallies ... all very masslike.
That and Hitlet had an obsession with the occult and all things superstitious . That post above you made about them being Catholics just highlights the delicious irony of the frock wearers and their chest beating half arsed comments from the pulpits on the evils of ahteism..
Captain Con O'Sullivan
19-04-2012, 04:32 PM
I always found the white line across st peters square to denote vartican borders from the axis territory hugely funny in one mawkish way.
The blitzkrieg smashed through Czechoslovaka, Poland, Belgium, Holland and France yet came to a screeching halt at a white line across st peters square.
If only Poland had known that German tanks were scared of white lines they could have saved their country with a visit to the stockroom at Crown Paints for a coupla thousand gallons of white.;)
disability student
19-04-2012, 04:36 PM
Most catholics have no idea that Hitler was a catholic from a staunch catholic family and hate it when it is pointed out. He even painted pictures of the madonna and child and a crucifix in the mountains,,,
Goering pointed out that Hitler was a catholic at the Nuremberg trials. Stalin was bought out of a tsarist jail by the jesuits for some reason.
Stern catholics go absolutely potty when you point this out because they are carefully trained away from those facts and towards them being arch-atheists. Stalin just replaced religion with his personality cult and Hitler was hugely religious in his revival tent oratory. Cathedrals of light at the rallies ... all very masslike.
I think Stalin wanted to join the Jesuits for free training & education which was strongly pushed by his mother Keke. His mother and him were very alike in terms of traits and characteristics.
Hitler went from Catholic to some form of esoteric religion but his sister stayed with her religion as a catholic. She was even supported by the pro- Nazi supporters even after the war.Interesting piece came out in the last few weeks was that Hitler fathered a son and he had a brief affair with a french woman during the first world war. Son refused to get married or have children in Hitler's name.He was so ashamed of it re his connection to his father Adolf.
Stalin was more brutal and clinical than Hitler when it comes to dealing with his own people.
Captain Con O'Sullivan
19-04-2012, 04:42 PM
That is interesting about Stalin being close to his mother- so was Hitler- to his own mother (not Stalin's obviously).
Hitler appointed a Reichsbishop (Mueller) to foster a Lutheran-Catholic all German church for the Reich.
I think Hitler knew how to use religion whereas Stalin was predisposed to replace it with the state and himself at the head of it. However Hitler was certainly catholic and his mother was intensely so. She wanted him to be a priest, believe it or not. That is enough to have catholics splurting tea all over the walls when they hear that one. Instinct reaction? Not possible. The church says he was an atheist.
The church says a lot of things.
disability student
19-04-2012, 04:54 PM
That is interesting about Stalin being close to his mother- so was Hitler- to his own mother (not Stalin's obviously).
Hitler appointed a Reichsbishop (Mueller) to foster a Lutheran-Catholic all German church for the Reich.
I think Hitler knew how to use religion whereas Stalin was predisposed to replace it with the state and himself at the head of it. However Hitler was certainly catholic and his mother was intensely so. She wanted him to be a priest, believe it or not. That is enough to have catholics splurting tea all over the walls when they hear that one. Instinct reaction? Not possible. The church says he was an atheist.
The church says a lot of things.
It's quite possible that RCC knew that Hitler was a catholic as Pope Pius XII tried to exorcise Hitler from a long distance:
According to secret Vatican documents recently released wartime Pope Pius XII attempted a 'long distance' exorcism of Hitler which failed to have any effect.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1257119/Catholic-sex-abuse-scandals-evidence-Devil-Vatican-says-Popes-chief-exorcist.html#ixzz1sVQzy67N
In order to exorcism on a person as that person would have to be a catholic. Otherwise it may not work on a non catholic person however i could be wrong on that score.I'm no expert on this.
Captain Con O'Sullivan
20-04-2012, 10:50 AM
Blimey O'Reilly. I used to think African teams at the world cup bringing witchdoctors with them to cast spells on the opposition was fairly quaint.
Long distance exorcisms? Fruit-loop stuff.
Here he is, look. Opressing a nun by signing 'Joe Stalin' in her autograph book.
http://www.alamoministries.com/content/english/Antichrist/nazigallery/22hitlerwithnun.jpg
Propaganda photo from the 30's
http://www.skeptically.org/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/hitler-infront-church.jpg
And if you'll take a look at the symbols up and behind the podium from this official welcome of a new Bishop (Von Preysing) at the Sportspalast you'll notice two fairly well known symbols- one of them being the Catholic Chi-Roh' symbol.
Hitler was no atheist. Some of his henchmen were and others were Lutherans but Hitler, as Goering pointed out in his own evidence in the Nuremberg trials was actually a catholic.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_vaticano/vatican46_26.jpg
The catholic church prefers to draw a veil over that. And of course there were notable nazi supporters in the church itself which is known to have operated its passport office at high speed in the last days providing paperwork for fleezing Nazis trying to escape the Allies and giving them documentation to take to the Red Cross in Zurich so that they could get papers from them and escape to South America and elsewhere.
That is not a 'claim'. It is historical fact.
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