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Count Bobulescu
07-04-2012, 02:09 PM
Late last year a US Government Advisory Committee made a very controversial recommendation that science journals withhold publication of the results of experiments to find a vaccination for Bird Flu, on the grounds that the information in the wrong hands could provide a blueprint for a highly contagious bio terrorism weapon. The committee has now revised it recommendation and the info will be published. Certain key info will be withheld and made available only to pre-approved institutions/people for peer review. This is scary stuff.


http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2012/03/30/149716286/scientific-journals-plan-to-publish-contentious-bird-flu-research?ft=3&f=122101520&sc=nl&cc=sh-20120407

random new yorker
07-04-2012, 04:18 PM
Late last year a US Government Advisory Committee made a very controversial recommendation that science journals withhold publication of the results of experiments to find a vaccination for Bird Flu, on the grounds that the information in the wrong hands could provide a blueprint for a highly contagious bio terrorism weapon. The committee has now revised it recommendation and the info will be published. Certain key info will be withheld and made available only to pre-approved institutions/people for peer review. This is scary stuff.


http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2012/03/30/149716286/scientific-journals-plan-to-publish-contentious-bird-flu-research?ft=3&f=122101520&sc=nl&cc=sh-20120407

is it out? in Nature and Science?? no time to look up right now...

Count Bobulescu
07-04-2012, 04:25 PM
no not yet

Count Bobulescu
23-06-2012, 03:45 PM
Out now.


Anyone and everyone can now look in the journal Science and read about how to make lab-altered bird flu viruses that have been at the center of a controversy that's raged for months.

But in the eyes of some critics, the details of these experiments are effectively the recipe for a dangerous flu pandemic.

The H5N1 bird flu virus isn't normally contagious between people, but these mutants most likely are. They were created with the best of intentions by a lab that's trying to understand how flu viruses might change in the wild and start spreading in humans.

But as word of the experiments got out, scary headlines warned of a "doomsday" virus and a "super-flu." Scientists, public health officials and security experts debated what to do in closed-door meetings, as others made their arguments in op-eds and at public meetings.

The publication of this research paper doesn't mean that debate is over. Earlier this year, top flu scientists around the world put a voluntary moratorium on some of their work that's still in effect. And the U.S. government has issued a new policy to try to prevent future crises like this one, though it's still unclear exactly how that policy will work.

The man at the center of this controversy is a Dutch virologist named Ron Fouchier. His lab at Erasmus Medical Center in the Netherlands made the mutant viruses. He's struggled for months to get a manuscript describing them published. And now it is finally appearing in Science.

"I've been asked whether this felt like a real victory. And it still doesn't," says Fouchier. "Because I am still afraid that some governments might be installing more of a regulatory system than I think is needed. And if that comes from this work, then I am not particularly happy. But, of course, we are very happy about the publication itself."

In order to submit that manuscript for publication, Fouchier had to comply with the Dutch government's demand that he first get a special permit that's normally used for the export of technology that could be used for weapons. He did so—under protest.Read more
http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2012/06/21/155504336/journal-publishes-details-on-controversial-bird-flu-experiments?ft=3&f=122101520&sc=nl&cc=sh-20120623

DCon
16-11-2014, 11:08 PM
Confirmed case of bird flu in Yorkshire (Sky News just broke) and also a case in the Netherlands

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/flu/11234213/Bird-flu-strain-which-can-be-passed-to-humans-detected-in-Holland.html

C. Flower
16-11-2014, 11:27 PM
Bad news.

The US, by the way, has asked labs to voluntarily stop making mutant viruses based on the likes of SARS and Ebola.

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