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Sidewinder
19-12-2011, 03:21 AM
On North Korean State TV so it must be true...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-16239693

Dr. FIVE
19-12-2011, 03:29 AM
jaysus


Terrible year for despots. In the 3rd world at least

Holly
19-12-2011, 06:19 AM
What now?
Pity the unfortunate people under that police state Communist rule.
More of the same, no doubt, as Red China and the world looks-on.
What a sick world we inhabit.

TotalMayhem
19-12-2011, 09:09 AM
What now?

Worry not, it'll be family business as usual, the Commies have declared Kim Jong-un to be the "Great Successor".

http://i.imgur.com/FgIfB.jpg

Ah Well
19-12-2011, 09:38 AM
Worry not, it'll be family business as usual, the Commies have declared Kim Jong-un to be the "Great Successor".

Judging by that pic, plenty meat and spuds on that lad ...

TotalMayhem
19-12-2011, 09:55 AM
Judging by that pic, plenty meat and spuds on that lad ...

Truly one well-fed Commie, never mind those tales of starvation in North Korea (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11244825)... all lies, damned capitalist lies!

Andrew49
19-12-2011, 10:09 AM
The new leader is going to be Kim Jong-un or Menta Li Ill .. or both!

C. Flower
19-12-2011, 10:20 AM
Useful post on the "succession" from anti-e who has an interest in N. Korea.

http://www.politicalworld.org/showthread.php?t=4351&highlight=North+Korea

We have a good forum on Korea and a number of people here who know about its history. I strongly recommend going behind the RTE clichés and reading about this incredible country that has been invaded over and over again and partitioned, and has undergone terrible famine.

A fair bit in common with our own history, in fact.

On the nuclear aspects -

http://www.politicalworld.org/showthread.php?t=2056&highlight=North+Korea

current war tensions between S. and N. Korea and others - but also v. interesting history of Korea.

http://www.politicalworld.org/showthread.php?t=550&highlight=North+Korea

military parades in N. Korea

http://www.politicalworld.org/showthread.php?t=4815&highlight=North+Korea

the succession from Kim

http://www.politicalworld.org/showthread.php?t=4526&highlight=North+Korea

day to day life in Korea

http://www.politicalworld.org/showthread.php?t=3991&highlight=North+Korea

Soccer in North Korea

http://www.politicalworld.org/showthread.php?t=3430&highlight=North+Korea

jmcc
19-12-2011, 11:41 AM
Wonder if some people in Labour might be broken hearted? :)

Regards...jmcc

Andrew49
19-12-2011, 11:59 AM
We've lost Alice Glenn and North Korea has lost the Great Leader .... can the day get any worse?

jmcc
19-12-2011, 12:15 PM
We've lost Alice Glenn and North Korea has lost the Great Leader .... can the day get any worse?Mahon report postponed to allow holidays and permanent relocation?

Regards...jmcc

TotalMayhem
19-12-2011, 12:51 PM
Fireworks for the Great Successor?

N Korea Fires 'Test Missile' After Kim's Death (http://news.sky.com/home/world-news/article/16133036)

TotalMayhem
19-12-2011, 12:54 PM
... while the people in Pyongyang mourn the loss of their Dear Leader.

http://i.imgur.com/bkxOR.jpg

Andrew49
19-12-2011, 01:00 PM
http://i.imgur.com/1FRcf.jpg

jmcc
19-12-2011, 01:02 PM
Perhaps we can send them Bertie Ahern - we've no use for him here. :)

Regards...jmcc

TotalMayhem
19-12-2011, 01:05 PM
Perhaps we can send them Bertie Ahern - we've no use for him here. :)

Regards...jmcc

And use him for missile tests: N Korea successfully launched space monkey into orbit.

Baron von Biffo
19-12-2011, 01:11 PM
Fireworks for the Great Successor?

N Korea Fires 'Test Missile' After Kim's Death (http://news.sky.com/home/world-news/article/16133036)

Those missiles kept Bush out. If there was even a remote chance that Saddam had such weapons he would be alive today.

Baron von Biffo
19-12-2011, 01:12 PM
And use him for missile tests: N Korea successfully launched space monkey into orbit.

The norm is to go up the evolutionary ladder.

Kev Bar
19-12-2011, 01:19 PM
Maybe everyone will get a free meth-ampthet tab and a forged 100 buck note to mark the august occasion of Chubby Cheeks coming to power.

Dr. FIVE
19-12-2011, 01:20 PM
Was this close to NK in 08

http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/4639/15955890.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/805/15955890.jpg/)

Kev Bar
19-12-2011, 01:22 PM
Was this close to NK in 08

http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/4639/15955890.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/805/15955890.jpg/)

What was stopping you Five?

Dr. FIVE
19-12-2011, 01:28 PM
http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/images/stories/large/2010/10/29/north_korea_border_now.jpg

jmcc
19-12-2011, 01:32 PM
Maybe everyone will get a free meth-ampthet tab and a forged 100 buck note to mark the august occasion of Chubby Cheeks coming to power.Enough about the FG/Labour government. What about NK? :)

Regards...jmcc

riposte
19-12-2011, 01:35 PM
Kim Jong-il RIP

Dr. FIVE
19-12-2011, 01:42 PM
http://p.twimg.com/AhB_84UCMAALuCd.jpg

Andrew49
19-12-2011, 01:46 PM
http://i.imgur.com/ztFoT.jpg
New Great Leader Being Installed

Somehow I think the burden on the people of north Korea has become even greater.

Andrew49
19-12-2011, 01:58 PM
http://p.twimg.com/AhB_84UCMAALuCd.jpg

Guffaw! A Classic.

- - -

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c135/theknitter/puller.jpg

Baron von Biffo
19-12-2011, 06:28 PM
Some academic on SixOne now but I have no idea what he's saying because I'm breaking my arse laughing at his bizarre hairstyle. :D

riposte
19-12-2011, 06:39 PM
Some academic on SixOne now but I have no idea what he's saying because I'm breaking my arse laughing at his bizarre hairstyle. :D

Yeah ......... and what's inside his head is equally funny.

C. Flower
19-12-2011, 07:09 PM
Those missiles kept Bush out. If there was even a remote chance that Saddam had such weapons he would be alive today.

Nice blogpost, on how we seem to be determined to meet North Korea half way - http://sturdyblog.wordpress.com/2011/12/19/the-kim-is-dead-long-live-the-kim/

Kev Bar
19-12-2011, 09:37 PM
What the person I know who spent some time there had to say about the idea of a perverse portrayal by the Western media:

"The western media??? The man personally orchestrated the murder of 250 civilians blowing an airline out of the sky, ordered 17 members of the SK government murdered in Rangoon, has kidnapped hundreds of foreign nationals from at least 13 countries to instruct his spies on how to go abroad and pose as foreigners, runs heroin, methamphetamine, opium, counterfeit currency, cigarettes, long range ballistic missiles, smuggles endangered species and pharmaceuticals by diplomat pouch, has had more than 50 diplomats arrested involved in violating sovereign laws in over 500 incidents in 106 countries, traffics in nuclear components to anyone who will pay, and has the 4th largest standing army on the planet and has a fully operational nuclear weapons capability which he regularly threatens the planet with using---all conducted while starving to death over 2 million of his own people, not to mention the untold millions he has executed--and keeps all the revenue for a small group of his family and corrupt elite cadre and you say the western media is to blame for calling him insane? Give me a ******* break...."

Disclosure: my friend would himself come under the description of a member of the Western media.




Nice blogpost, on how we seem to be determined to meet North Korea half way - http://sturdyblog.wordpress.com/2011...-live-the-kim/

Just cos we had one nuclear armed psycho with Bush does not make the idea of another one any more palatable.

Similarly just cos one crew of criminal elite - the masters of meta finance - subverted Western democracy and impoverished millions does nothing to justify the existence of another variant of the same cynical rapacious abusive behaviour.

A pox on both their houses.

I can't understand this admiration of scum just cos they are not 'our' scum.

Ah Well
19-12-2011, 11:07 PM
http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/images/stories/large/2010/10/29/north_korea_border_now.jpg

Five was being watched

Meanwhile the watcher was being watched as well

Just in case

http://images.artnet.com/WebServices/picture.aspx?date=20070621&catalog=119991&gallery=110730&lot=04555&filetype=2

Who's watching the guy watching the watcher tho?

Dr. FIVE
20-12-2011, 12:06 AM
Further up running parallel to the Great wall and Chinese border the Yalu river is so narrow the spot was known as "One step crossing".

http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/5251/oscys.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/851/oscys.jpg/)

Interestingly the fence was only erected in the last few years.


http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/8851/26067443.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/36/26067443.jpg/)

One reason I think is that you have a lot of open land to cross before you get to that point, as you can see here. Plenty of opportunity for you and your family to be picked off by then. The other being you would need to travel the length of China, then Loas and over the Mekong into Thailand before you're in a state that will send you to Seoul rather then Pyongyang.

Good NatGeo piece on defectors here (http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2009/02/north-korea/oneill-text/1)

TotalMayhem
20-12-2011, 01:21 AM
Meanwhile the watcher was being watched as well

The old Commie mantra: "Trust is good, control better." ;)

Kev Bar
20-12-2011, 01:31 AM
Further up running parallel to the Great wall and Chinese border the Yalu river is so narrow the spot was known as "One step crossing".

http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/5251/oscys.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/851/oscys.jpg/)

Interestingly the fence was only erected in the last few years.


http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/8851/26067443.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/36/26067443.jpg/)

One reason I think is that you have a lot of open land to cross before you get to that point, as you can see here. Plenty of opportunity for you and your family to be picked off by then. The other being you would need to travel the length of China, then Loas and over the Mekong into Thailand before you're in a state that will send you to Seoul rather then Pyongyang.

Good NatGeo piece on defectors here (http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2009/02/north-korea/oneill-text/1)


Five - a mere gully away from the Worker's Paradise.

Do they let your average/illustrious Paddy go a promenading and a whistling in the wind along the border?

Dr. FIVE
20-12-2011, 09:59 AM
Who's watching the guy watching the watcher tho?

The Chinese



Do they let your average/illustrious Paddy go a promenading and a whistling in the wind along the border?

likewise

;)

antiestablishmentarian
20-12-2011, 04:32 PM
There have been some developments since Kim Jong Il's death in the Hermit Kingdom

1. Kim Jong Un was officially declared 'the Great Successor' by KCNA yesterday, though that means nothing- power is likely to be held by a collective leadership for a few years, it took Kim Jong Il three years to consolidate his rule after the death of Kim Il-Sung, and given Kim Jong-Un's youth and inexperience, it may take him longer to solidify his position- in other words, expect nothing to change for the foreseeable future.

2. The border was shut the day before the announcement of the death, and armed guards have been posted in cities in the Northern part of the country to prevent defection and unrest.
http://www.dailynk.com/english/read.php?cataId=nk01500&num=8557

3. Despite all the crocodile tears and mourning, this death may actually come as a relief to the North Korean elite. 2012 is the 100th anniversary of the death of Kim IL-Sung, and the regime made the rash promise to make the country 'strong and prosperous' by Kim Il-Sung's birthday next April. Obviously, given the state of their economy and their isolation from trade, that was never going to happen, so this gives the regime a get out of jail free card- they can blame the lack of progress on the economic front on the confusion caused by the death of the Great Leader.

4. This death will give China a greater chance to get their claws into North Korean resources. North Korea is underdeveloped and has large reserves of coal and iron ore in the northern mountains, which China has long envied. Kim Jong-Il allowed Chinese companies greater latitude to exploit these resources in the final years of his reign, but was always careful to maintain control. However, now he's gone and has been replaced by an inexperienced youth who's guided by people with no experience of external relations (Jang Song Thaek, his main advisor, has mostly been responsible for security duties, in other words maintaining the internal security and security installations of the regime, such as the concentration camps), and so he is liable to exploitation by his erstwhile 'ally'.

Dr. FIVE
20-12-2011, 05:43 PM
lol

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/8967703/Rick-Perry-in-Kim-Jong-the-Second-gaffe.html

Ah Well
22-12-2011, 10:54 AM
North Korea says a fierce snowstorm paused and the sky began glowing red above sacred Mount Paektu, minutes before leader Kim Jong Il’s death.

Read more: http://www.breakingnews.ie/world/snowstorm-paused-before-kim-jong-il-death-claims-regime-533202.html#ixzz1hG4EGsnL

Hallelu-kim!!!

antiestablishmentarian
22-12-2011, 10:58 AM
I wonder if that had anything to do with the missile test they had the day of his death :D

antiestablishmentarian
25-12-2011, 02:33 PM
Well, it seems Ireland has its share of mourners too for the 'Great Leader'




I recalled my visit to the DPRK in April 2002 when I attended a rally at the People’s Palace of Culture to mark the 90th anniversary of the birth of the great leader comrade Kim Il Sung. I was with a Korean lady who was my guide for the visit. We were waiting for the meeting to start. Suddenly , a striking figure in light green strode on the stage at a very brisk pace . He looked strong , with a straight back . He not only walked briskly but with purpose ,determination and control. “leader Kim Jong il ” shouted my guide sounding much younger than she was . The great leader comrade Kim Jong Il was 60 years old at the time but looked like he was in his 40s. Those present burst into spontaneous and rapturous applause which lasted for over five minutes . I had never witnessed anything like it before in my life.
http://jucheireland.wordpress.com/

Kev Bar
25-12-2011, 06:53 PM
Well, it seems Ireland has its share of mourners too for the 'Great Leader'



http://jucheireland.wordpress.com/

Well, I suppose this is the time of the year that loons celebrate religious icons.

But Jesus was born and promptly wept.

Kev Bar
26-12-2011, 05:41 PM
The Korean People’s Army is united steel-strong on the basis of Songun , its soldiers are a match for a hundred Yankee soldiers as taught by the great leader President Kim Il Sung The KPA struck back hard at the south Korean puppets when they foolishly provoked the Yongphyong incident in November 2010. I am convinced that if the US and south Korean puppets provoked a war the KPA could not only honourably defend

The last time I read dangerous, but primarily deranged crap, like the above, it was a missive from Brother Number One, Pol Pot. Just switch Vietnamese for Yankees. This is the zone where pyschosis meets religious.
Stick in Holy Mary for Kim and you are another sad sucker seeing statues move in Ballinaspittle.

antiestablishmentarian
28-12-2011, 06:08 PM
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/images/2011/1228/285823_1.jpg?ts=1325095457Kim Jong-Il's funeral was held today. Huge gatherings in Pyongyang, and services held everywhere else in the country.

antiestablishmentarian
28-12-2011, 10:19 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSLJYbhXCkE

Incredible scenes of mourning from Pyongyang.